I've used kinda the same analogy in the past. Mine has a person standing by a roadside, sees a child stepping into the path of an oncoming car. All the person has to do is simply reach out and pull the child to safety but instead just stands and watches the tragic event unfold. The question then is, what kind of individual would do such a thing?
Our analogy is flawed though for God (the individual watching the event unfold) created mankind with free will. In the earthly realm, there cannot be a comparison between the free will individual who watches the event unfold and God who watches the event unfold.
It's comparing apples and the creator of the apples.
It has nothing to do with free will, when a child is about to be killed, whether it's a human standing by and watching, or God.
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It has nothing to do with free will, when a child is about to be killed, whether it's a human standing by and watching, or God.
We all are appointed to die. It is inevitable. God's point of view is much different than our point of view. He knows if that child is killed by that train, then that child will leave his body and pass into the spirit realm which is a better place than this world.
BTW, Timmy, this thread is for you. I know you like to discuss the difficulty people have with a good, all-powerful God and the problem of evil.
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We all are appointed to die. It is inevitable. God's point of view is much different than our point of view. He knows if that child is killed by that train, then that child will leave his body and pass into the spirit realm which is a better place than this world.
BTW, Timmy, this thread is for you. I know you like to discuss the difficulty people have with a good, all-powerful God and the problem of evil.
There is no "problem of evil" in my "theology".
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It has nothing to do with free will, when a child is about to be killed, whether it's a human standing by and watching, or God.
I disagree, it has everything to do with the free will of a person. We live in the system God put us in and for God to intervene in everything, preventing anyone from ever dying or suffering, preventing all earthquakes and tornadoes wouldn't be the system God has for His creation.
Like it or not, some individuals make freewill decisions which harm other people, God has nothing to do with it.
I disagree, it has everything to do with the free will of a person. We live in the system God put us in and for God to intervene in everything, preventing anyone from ever dying or suffering, preventing all earthquakes and tornadoes wouldn't be the system God has for His creation.
Like it or not, some individuals make freewill decisions which harm other people, God has nothing to do with it.
An accident with a train is not someone making a freewill decision to harm a child.
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God watches children get killed in accidents, every day. Just watches. Could stop it, but doesn't. (At least, not in all cases.) But God is good.
If I stood by and watched a child get hit by a train, when I could easily have prevented it, what would you say about me?
Nope, not the same thing.
Once again, God is the creator of the system in which we live. He's not part of the everyday events, they're products of nature, laws and free will choices by individuals.
You, as a part of the free will system would be accountable in your decision, not God.
Once again, God is the creator of the system in which we live. He's not part of the everyday events, they're products of nature, laws and free will choices by individuals.
You, as a part of the free will system would be accountable in your decision, not God.
I understand. God can even kill children, and still be thought of as good. In fact, he demands that we think he is good, no matter what he does. So, if we read a newspaper account of a... well, I was going to say a crime, but let's not pass judgement, just yet. Here, let's dive into a (made-up) example:
An unknown individual broke into a daycare center yesterday, and opened fire with an assault weapon, killing all the children and workers present. Investigators have no idea of the identity of the individual
That's all we know. From just this account, can you tell me whether the action of this individual was good or evil?
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