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Old 07-08-2011, 12:35 PM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness

I long ago abandoned the "sometimes he spoke as god and sometimes as man" stuff.

He always spoke and did things as a man. He willingly limited Himself to the human nature, not vacillated back and forth
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I long ago abandoned the "sometimes he spoke as god and sometimes as man" stuff.

He always spoke and did things as a man. He willingly limited Himself to the human nature, not vacillated back and forth
thats pretty honest prax, now tell me what upci your at so we can revoke any license you have for the heresy you just preached!!!

pretty much was how i was showed the duel nature of christ communitcated with God.

though i seek for more seperation of son and father, and not just nature and modes and manifestations to quench my thirst.

But you have took on a new view. Me and my pastor will eventually take a look at Jason dulles work and probably my add 2 cents, i want to see how he views it since he is more a traditional oneness modalist with some monarchianism
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thats pretty honest prax, now tell me what upci your at so we can revoke any license you have for the heresy you just preached!!!

pretty much was how i was showed the duel nature of christ communitcated with God.

though i seek for more seperation of son and father, and not just nature and modes and manifestations to quench my thirst.

But you have took on a new view. Me and my pastor will eventually take a look at Jason dulles work and probably my add 2 cents, i want to see how he views it since he is more a traditional oneness modalist with some monarchianism
First of all I think you aren't understanding my point. My view is still Oneness nor is believing that Jesus the man sometimes acted as God and sometimes as man essential to licensing

Second I am not a licensed minster of the UPC

The Father and Son are not separate. They are distinct

The Son (Jesus) does not go back and forth between acting as God and then as man. That is not a denial that He is both God and man. It's a matter of the kenosis I spoke of before. He willingly limited Himself to the Human attributes while possessing the Divine. They were at His disposal
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First of all I think you aren't understanding my point. My view is still Oneness nor is believing that Jesus the man sometimes acted as God and sometimes as man essential to licensing

Second I am not a licensed minster of the UPC

The Father and Son are not separate. They are distinct

The Son (Jesus) does not go back and forth between acting as God and then as man. That is not a denial that He is both God and man. It's a matter of the kenosis I spoke of before. He willingly limited Himself to the Human attributes while possessing the Divine. They were at His disposal
ah that explains why your not liscensed, you have not conformed to their view yet and sign the affirmation..

also i know what you belive.

and yes the Son limited Himself. Though the father worked in the Son, The Son was his own person. 2 witnesses, not just human and a divine nature operating on one plain of exsistance
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ah that explains why your not liscensed, you have not conformed to their view yet and sign the affirmation..

also i know what you belive.

and yes the Son limited Himself. Though the father worked in the Son, The Son was his own person. 2 witnesses, not just human and a divine nature operating on one plain of exsistance
The affirmation statement has a statement about believing the Son sometimes acted as God and sometimes as a man?

Anyways, not sure why you just posted that but I do not believe a human nature and a Divine nature were witnesses.
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The affirmation statement has a statement about believing the Son sometimes acted as God and sometimes as a man?

Anyways, not sure why you just posted that but I do not believe a human nature and a Divine nature were witnesses.
it was a inside joke, it just went over your head. i was messing with you about the liscenship and the affirmation, all theology and no play makes a grumpy saint.

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it was a inside joke, it just went over your head. i was messing with you about the liscenship and the affirmation, all theology and no play makes a grumpy saint.

I guess...there would be other reasons though I would not sign it
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