A Picture of Jesus

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by acerrak

according to the book of adam(s) adam and eve had close to 60 kids. the kids married each other, and from them the population grew. so cain married his sister.

so i am sure that some how noahs kids was related to their wifes.

people get uptight and say they would have never done such a thing, but yes they did, infact they did so all the way up until God commanded them not to after the exodus.

if im not mistaken Othniel caleb's brother ( was given caleb's daughter in marriage) so he married his niece

So again, one must decide that inbreeding was magically
held in abeyance with this model. Not saying impossible,
but doubtful. Marrying a niece dangerous enough, but a sister?

This story works fine for kids, but men are known as
"Adam" or "Ish" in Scripture, and it would serve you
to find out why.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

So again, one must decide that inbreeding was magically
held in abeyance with this model. Not saying impossible,
but doubtful. Marrying a niece dangerous enough, but a sister?

This story works fine for kids, but men are known as
"Adam" or "Ish" in Scripture, and it would serve you
to find out why.

nope they imbreed. and that story works for adults as well.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by acerrak

nope they imbreed. and that story works for adults as well.

Well, we even have stories of inbreeding,
but they struck me as exceptions...
doesn't answer "Adam, or Ish?" tho.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Well, we even have stories of inbreeding,
but they struck me as exceptions...
doesn't answer "Adam, or Ish?" tho.

the fact is all man is adam. "mankind". a boy can rich ish at his bar mitzvah.

your sorta trying to seperate the words as to be some other type of human race and it isnt, nor does it fit.

adam has 4 meanings to it, but the first adam was also a "ish" and thus came eve who was also called Ishshah which also means woman wife female.

so i dont see this wierd thing your trying to draw on with adam and ish..... cause its not really there

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by acerrak

the fact is all man is adam. "mankind". a boy can rich ish at his bar mitzvah.

your sorta trying to seperate the words as to be some other type of human race and it isnt, nor does it fit.

adam has 4 meanings to it, but the first adam was also a "ish" and thus came eve who was also called Ishshah which also means woman wife female.

so i dont see this wierd thing your trying to draw on with adam and ish..... cause its not really there

Well, some really learned guys think it is.
For some reason "circumcision" comes to me;
we have a physical representation of a spiritual concept.

I kind of view Ish and Adam the same, but again I'll
say that my understanding will prolly change more also-
-but at present I doubt that all humans descend solely
from A&E; I'm pretty sure that is the result of our reading.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Well, some really learned guys think it is.
For some reason "circumcision" comes to me;
we have a physical representation of a spiritual concept.

I kind of view Ish and Adam the same, but again I'll
say that my understanding will prolly change more also-
-but at present I doubt that all humans descend solely
from A&E; I'm pretty sure that is the result of our reading.

if we look at what ish means its easy to understand, ish is the age of accountability, that is why a Boy son of adam can be come a ish at age 13 at his bar mitzveh.

its the age of accountability and has nothing todo with the 8th day of creation. Both adam and eve was created already at the age of accountability. They was responsibile for their own actions. Just as by jewish law a 13 year old is now responisble for his own sins and obeyance of the commandments and law.

that is why adam is a "ish" and that is why "ish" is not a new race of men besides the one God created through adam..

we had to have our origin some where. The bible declares adam and eve. He was the first adam. Jesus was the Second adam. the first adam brought sin the second one removed it.

if we say ish is another race, then those people who are "ish" can not be redeemed through Jesus as He atoned for the sins through adam and the sons of adam.

this is why the devils sin will never be atoned for, Because satan is not of adam.

But since adam was a "ish and so was eve" its not a different race its the accountability that a person has that gives them the title.

Today My Boy becomes a Man a "ish"