Apostolic Friends Forum
Tab Menu 1
Go Back   Apostolic Friends Forum > The Fellowship Hall > Fellowship Hall
Facebook

Notices

Fellowship Hall The place to go for Fellowship & Fun!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 07-22-2012, 11:17 AM
The Matt's Avatar
The Matt The Matt is offline
I Am That I Am.


 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Southern Louisiana
Posts: 1,500
Re: Does the Lord deny anybody being healed??

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Matt View Post
Wait...I'm partially insane with lack of sleep....um...did I win? I can has cookie nao? ≧✯◡✯≦
Note to self: Sum up a paragraph someone wrote, with one sentence that gives the gist of what they were saying, You will be seen as intelligent, efficient, and agree with them, without actually having to agree, at the same time.

DULY noted.
__________________
1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 07-22-2012, 12:05 PM
RandyWayne RandyWayne is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: AZ
Posts: 16,746
Re: Does the Lord deny anybody being healed??

Quote:
Originally Posted by CC1 View Post
Yes. A lot of the time.

If God healed everybody all of the time Christians would live forever here on earth in this earthly body.
Shhhhhh, don't let faulty human reasoning cloud the issue!
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 07-22-2012, 12:12 PM
RandyWayne RandyWayne is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: AZ
Posts: 16,746
Re: Does the Lord deny anybody being healed??

I remember my wife telling me how she went back to school shortly after her mother died of cancer and of the headmasters asking her what sin her mother had in her life that God didn't heal her.

After abruptly telling the headmaster to "Go to hell!" she stormed out. Needlessly her theology degree ended that afternoon. TV, would you have asked her that question?
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 07-22-2012, 01:24 PM
Jermyn Davidson's Avatar
Jermyn Davidson Jermyn Davidson is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: In His Hands
Posts: 13,919
Re: Does the Lord deny anybody being healed??

Quote:
Originally Posted by tv1a View Post
The two main reasons for lack of healing are ignorance and unbelief.
What are the other ancillary reasons?
__________________
"The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character."
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 07-22-2012, 02:26 PM
AreYouReady? AreYouReady? is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 5,600
Re: Does the Lord deny anybody being healed??

Yeah...I remember reading where Job's friends all blamed him when his life fell apart.
__________________
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. (Psalms 118:8)
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 07-22-2012, 02:57 PM
RandyWayne RandyWayne is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: AZ
Posts: 16,746
Re: Does the Lord deny anybody being healed??

Quote:
Originally Posted by AreYouReady? View Post
Yeah...I remember reading where Job's friends all blamed him when his life fell apart.
Ya, there is that as well.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 07-22-2012, 07:16 PM
ILG's Avatar
ILG ILG is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 11,467
Re: Does the Lord deny anybody being healed??

Quote:
Originally Posted by AreYouReady? View Post
Yeah...I remember reading where Job's friends all blamed him when his life fell apart.
People like to think they are in control. If they are at fault, they can also fix it.
__________________
Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it. ~Chinese Proverb

When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 07-22-2012, 07:42 PM
Hoovie's Avatar
Hoovie Hoovie is offline
Supercalifragilisticexpiali...


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 19,197
Re: Does the Lord deny anybody being healed??

Quote:
Originally Posted by ILG View Post
People like to think they are in control. If they are at fault, they can also fix it.
A VERY good point!
__________________
"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005

I am a firm believer in the Old Paths

Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945

"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 07-23-2012, 10:02 PM
tv1a's Avatar
tv1a tv1a is offline
God's Son


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 3,743
Re: Does the Lord deny anybody being healed??

Your wife handled that situation with a lot more class than I would have. I'm sorry she had to go through that.

Jesus didn't put any requirement on healing. The Bible says Jesus healed everyone who asked. Even when He played hard to get, the gentile woman's belief the crumbs were enough to heal her daughter. Jesus was so amazed at the woman's faith, he healed her daughter.

Jesus did not attribute sickness to sin in a person's life. Jesus did not withhold healing from someone because of sin. That wasn't his character. He told a few people there sins were forgiven. The reason Jesus did that was because he wanted the religious people to know who He was. Christ has the power to forgive sin AND to heal.

What I've done with every excuse why Jesus doesn't heal is to line it up with the Bible and see how it matches up with the character of Christ. Every reason I've heard or read contradicts the character of Christ. If everyone is honest with themselves, they can only speculate why healing doesn't always happen.

These are the facts I live on.
The Bible is true.
If I what I believe doesn't line up with the Bible, I line up with the Bible.
The Bible says God heals all diseases. The Bible says with His stripes we are healed. The Bible says multitudes came to Jesus and He healed them all. The Bible says God doesn't play favorites. The Bibles shows us Jesus commanded his followers to heal the sick, raise the dead, and cast out devils. I have to conclude that God will come through on His Word.

Unfortunately OP's don't have a great track record in the signs, wonders, and miracles department. It's a ........ shoot with OP's. There are people who left a blazing trail of healings all over the world. Smith Wigglesworth, John G Lake are a couple that come to mind. Lake had over 500,000 document cases of healing. He opened up healing rooms on the west coast which are still being used today. The city Lake ministered healings in was identified as the healthiest city in the United States at one time. There are catholic mystics who God gave supernatural power to heal people.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyWayne View Post
I remember my wife telling me how she went back to school shortly after her mother died of cancer and of the headmasters asking her what sin her mother had in her life that God didn't heal her.

After abruptly telling the headmaster to "Go to hell!" she stormed out. Needlessly her theology degree ended that afternoon. TV, would you have asked her that question?
__________________
A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson

Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado

Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard

Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV

Last edited by tv1a; 07-23-2012 at 10:18 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 07-23-2012, 10:09 PM
Dordrecht's Avatar
Dordrecht Dordrecht is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,580
Re: Does the Lord deny anybody being healed??

Quote:
Originally Posted by tv1a View Post
Your wife handled that situation with a lot more class than I would have. I'm sorry she had to go through that.

Jesus didn't put any requirement on healing. The Bible says Jesus healed everyone who asked. Even when He played hard to get, the gentile woman's belief the crumbs were enough to heal her daughter. Jesus was so amazed at the woman's faith, he healed her daughter.

Jesus did not attribute sickness to sin in a person's life. Jesus did not withhold healing from someone because of sin. That wasn't his character. He told a few people there sins were forgiven. The reason Jesus did that was because he wanted the religious people to know who He was. Christ has the power to forgive sin AND to heal.

What I've done with every excuse why Jesus doesn't heal is to line it up with the Bible and see how it matches up with the character of Christ. Every reason I've heard or read contradicts the character of Christ. If everyone is honest with themselves, they can only speculate why healing doesn't always happen.

These are the facts I live on.
The Bible is true.
If I what I believe doesn't line up with the Bible, I line up with the Bible.
The Bible says God heals all diseases. The Bible says with His stripes we are healed. The Bible says multitudes came to Jesus and He healed them all. The Bible says God doesn't play favorites. The Bibles shows us Jesus commanded his followers to heal the sick, raise the dead, and cast out devils. I have to conclude that God will come through on His Word.

Unfortunately OP's don't have a great track record in the signs, wonders, and miracles department. It's a ........ shoot with OP's. There are people who left a blazing trail of healings all over the world. Smith Wigglesworth, John G Lake are a couple that come to mind. Lake had over 500,000 document cases of healing. He opened up healing rooms on the west coast which are still being used today. The city Lake ministered healings in was identified as the healthiest city in the United States at one time. There are catholic mystics who God gave supernatural power to heal people.

I haven't found a Bible answer why everyone isn't healed. Every answer I attempted from logic and reasoning doesn't line up with the Biblical concept of Christ.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Deny The Deity Of Jesus? UnTraditional Fellowship Hall 154 03-19-2011 07:50 PM
Let Him Deny Himself Ron Fellowship Hall 22 06-19-2008 09:29 PM
Why does Oneness deny Son as creator? Iron_Bladder Deep Waters 79 05-25-2007 03:53 AM

 
User Infomation
Your Avatar

Latest Threads
- by Salome
- by Amanah

Help Support AFF!

Advertisement




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.