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n david · #11 10-22-2013, 08:19 AM

I don't believe a person can really "think" in tongues. Tongues is a spiritual, vocal utterance, not a mental thought process. Speaking in tongues is as the spirit gives utterance. Claiming to "think" in tongues is not as the spirit gives utterance; it's using your own mind and own mental process, which is of yourself and not of God.

endtimer · #12 10-22-2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by n david

I don't believe a person can really "think" in tongues. Tongues is a spiritual, vocal utterance, not a mental thought process. Speaking in tongues is as the spirit gives utterance. Claiming to "think" in tongues is not as the spirit gives utterance; it's using your own mind and own mental process, which is of yourself and not of God.

This makes sense to me. The Holy Ghost is a teacher and the soul learns from it. Maybe tongues in thought and spoken is a soul (intellect) based activity in cases where a person doesn't necessarily yield to God but is still able to utter tongues. Interesting.

renee819 · #13 10-22-2013, 11:52 AM

Actually, thinking in tongues was the best way that I could explain it. And I still don't know of a better way. However, whether you speak, or you think, if you whisper, you don't even have to think of what you are saying or thinking, in tongues.. The tongues are just there, you can use them, silently or you can speak them out or start thinking about other things. You have control.

It is much easier to pray in tongues than it is in your own language. And no wonder. There are many times that we don't know what we should pray for.

I don't believe that a person can speak in unknown tongues from their own spirit. Even if a person wanted to memorize a “tongue,” what would they memorize? The “unknown tongue” is 'unknown' meaning it is not any earthly language. It is not a foreign language.

n david · #14 10-22-2013, 12:00 PM

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However, whether you speak, or you think, if you whisper, you don't even have to think of what you are saying or thinking, in tongues.. The tongues are just there, you can use them, silently or you can speak them out or start thinking about other things. You have control.

And that is exactly the reason I don't believe you can "think" in tongues. "You have control."

Speaking in tongues is the complete opposite, you don't have control, rather the spirit speaks through you.

renee819 · #15 10-22-2013, 01:30 PM

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And that is exactly the reason I don't believe you can "think" in tongues. "You have control."

Speaking in tongues is the complete opposite, you don't have control, rather the spirit speaks through you.

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.1 Corinthians 14:28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

(HOW CAN HE BE SILENT? David says he doesn't have control.)

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:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
:30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
:31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.
:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets

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And then the 'interpretation” You know, don't you, that when tongues are interpreted, it becomes prophecy? So the prophets have control, but those that speak in tongues, lose control?

I THINK NOT!

The whole chapter is instruction, to the Corinthians, it seems as though they were all speaking in tongues all at the same time. As if they had no control. And that is what the chapter is about, "Let all things be done decently and in order." one at a time, because you do have control.

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1 Corinthians 14:23 If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?

A person with the gift of divers tongues, can speak in tongues anytime that they desire. Or they can stop, when they desire.

n david · #16 10-22-2013, 02:05 PM

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(HOW CAN HE BE SILENT? David says he doesn't have control.)

You completely missed what I posted. Your entire post is another thing entirely from what my post was about.

berkeley · #17 10-22-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by n david

And that is exactly the reason I don't believe you can "think" in tongues. "You have control." Speaking in tongues is the complete opposite, you don't have control, rather the spirit speaks through you.

you don't have control? Please elaborate.

kclee4jc · #18 10-23-2013, 07:13 AM

no i don't think in tongues. Being that our mind is not producing the language I don't know that its actually possible to "think in tongues".

I do often pray in tongues without vocalizing it, however. Kind of a "Hannah Prayer" in the Spirit I suppose.

kclee4jc · #19 10-23-2013, 07:17 AM

It has been scientifically proven that glossolalia is not produced by the part of the brain that produces language.

renee819 · #20 10-23-2013, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kclee4jc

no i don't think in tongues. Being that our mind is not producing the language I don't know that its actually possible to "think in tongues".

I do often pray in tongues without vocalizing it, however. Kind of a "Hannah Prayer" in the Spirit I suppose.

Then KC, what would you call that? Praying in tongues without vocalizing?

I know that we don't use our mind. When you constantly keep your mind on God, the tongues are just there. You can let the tongues 'sink in' without vocalizing, you can whisper them to yourself or speak them out loud.

People haven't experienced this, I guess it is hard to believe.