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02-04-2014, 11:52 AM
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Re: Divorce?
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Agreed, but the living conditions are unacceptable regardless, which is why I added that. If my husband was refusing to reform AND refusing professional help, that's what I would do. That, or he would come home to all of his video games being in the fireplace.
Sometimes ultimatums are the only things that will work, but you do have to be prepared for people to take the "third option."
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While I understand that the living conditions aren't to the standards of the person with the question of the "3rd option", I wonder if the third option for this particular person is sound with a biblical option.
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02-04-2014, 12:01 PM
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Re: Divorce?
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While I understand that the living conditions aren't to the standards of the person with the question of the "3rd option", I wonder if the third option for this particular person is sound with a biblical option.
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Rephrase?
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02-04-2014, 03:51 PM
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Re: Divorce?
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
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Sure. The third option you mentioned in one of your previous post may suggest divorce which is the topic of this discussion. If a vow was made in marriage such as "In sickness and in health..., for better or worse... 'till death do you part...", then it would seem to me that the individual with the question of divorce would have no option trying to "strong arm" someone with separation just because they may be clinically sick with depression. I think that kind of strong arm may hurt the husband more than help him. JMHO  =D
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02-04-2014, 06:39 PM
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Re: Divorce?
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Sure. The third option you mentioned in one of your previous post may suggest divorce which is the topic of this discussion. If a vow was made in marriage such as "In sickness and in health..., for better or worse... 'till death do you part...", then it would seem to me that the individual with the question of divorce would have no option trying to "strong arm" someone with separation just because they may be clinically sick with depression. I think that kind of strong arm may hurt the husband more than help him. JMHO  =D
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No, divorce isn't what I meant by "third option." Divorce should be avoided at all costs. "Third option" refers to when you give someone a choice (read: ultimatum) and they choose their own "third option." E.g., calling your bluff and doing whatever they please.
In all seriousness, I would only recommend separation in a severe situation, and it does sound like some intervention is needed here. If there is a trusted friend or pastor or family member, they need to be brought in to try to help with the situation. However, if the husband refuses to go to counseling or seek any kind of outside help, what would you suggest?
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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02-04-2014, 09:25 PM
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Re: Divorce?
Even if one isn't a Christian, as a matter of ethics, one doesn't divorce their spouse simply because the person is ill.
There just IS NOT a positive or Biblically sound way to spin this WHEN THE SPOUSE IS ILL.
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02-06-2014, 10:32 PM
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Re: Divorce?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Even if one isn't a Christian, as a matter of ethics, one doesn't divorce their spouse simply because the person is ill.
There just IS NOT a positive or Biblically sound way to spin this WHEN THE SPOUSE IS ILL.
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Yes there is, when the spouse is dangerous!!
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02-07-2014, 07:44 AM
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Re: Divorce?
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Yes there is, when the spouse is dangerous!!
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"Till death do us part, or until you try to kill me"-- yeah that's how it goes.
Really, in that case (which happens), the person needs to be hospitalized.
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02-05-2014, 08:10 AM
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Re: Divorce?
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
No, divorce isn't what I meant by "third option." Divorce should be avoided at all costs. "Third option" refers to when you give someone a choice (read: ultimatum) and they choose their own "third option." E.g., calling your bluff and doing whatever they please.
In all seriousness, I would only recommend separation in a severe situation, and it does sound like some intervention is needed here. If there is a trusted friend or pastor or family member, they need to be brought in to try to help with the situation. However, if the husband refuses to go to counseling or seek any kind of outside help, what would you suggest?
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I apologize for misinterpreting your post....please forgive me. As far as what I would suggest would be lots of prayer.
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