End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[RJR]

Originally Posted by pilgram

I just wanted to take a moment and thank you and the other 2 gentlemen for taking your time to educate on this topic. I've have learned a great deal and am now armed with the knowledge to refute error on this topic.
So don't think the effort has gone wasted on those that refuse to follow the bible's clear instruction regarding this topic because there are Christians out here reading, learning and wanting to obey the Word of God. So again thank you.
The Bible doesn't just contain God's Word the Bible IS God's Word.

How refreshing to hear someone say the bolded above. It was only a few posts ago we were left to read such as will follow in the quote below. I thought this was Apostolic friends forum, how Apostolic is this next quote?

Originally Posted by shazeep

ok,, and considering all of the 'facts' in the Bible as being indelible, what is that? They were facts in their time, and recorded as history, for a reflection, imo--considering them as being the final word for any other situation is spiritual suicide, and there is plenty of Scripture for this.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by RJR

How refreshing to hear someone say the bolded above. It was only a few posts ago we were left to read such as will follow in the quote below. I thought this was Apostolic friends forum, how Apostolic is this next quote?

So then, would you say that Israel is blessed today? I suggest you maybe put me on 'ignore,' otherwise this line is going to shred you, ok?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by shazeep

So then, would you say that Israel is blessed today? I suggest you maybe put me on 'ignore,' otherwise this line is going to shred you, ok?

i see you apparently took me up on my advice!

[RJR]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ok,, and considering all of the 'facts' in the Bible as being indelible, what is that? They were facts in their time, and recorded as history, for a reflection, imo--considering them as being the final word for any other situation is spiritual suicide, and there is plenty of Scripture for this.

Originally Posted by RJR

Start listing them, this should be interesting. You have done so well in presenting your other case.

Originally Posted by shazeep

The Scripture Itself, taken as a whole, is a blueprint for change; you cannot read most of the OT and expect it to apply directly to life today; we are in a different dispensation at the very least--most of us, anyway --and in a time of Grace now. Does this mean God changed? Of course not. It is us who must needs change. I think you know perfectly well what spirit I'm coming from, but would prefer to cut your nose off rather than agree with anyone with a different pov. Now, that is your perfect right, and I can understand and even respect attempts to defend Scripture, which i have no intention of trying to invalidate.

However, you make the perfect the enemy of the good, perhaps, when you imagine that you can counsel another, not living in your shoes, better than the Holy Spirit--and then see fit to condemn them out of hand. I notice you have thus far ignored many pertinent examples, that might help 'prove' or disprove your case, and I don't expect that when I run across some nifty little legal bind for you that i will get any more attention.

Originally Posted by shazeep

So then, would you say that Israel is blessed today? I suggest you maybe put me on 'ignore,' otherwise this line is going to shred you, ok?

Originally Posted by shazeep

i see you apparently took me up on my advice!

Start listing them was the challenge. So far you have asked if Israel is blessed today. Is that the list and the shredder?

Much of your musings do not make sense. Such as the reference to a "little legal bind for you I will get any more attention."

As for I Israel, since you asked,

Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
Rom 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
Rom 11:3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
Rom 11:4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by RJR

Start listing them was the challenge. So far you have asked if Israel is blessed today. Is that the list and the shredder?

Much of your musings do not make sense. Such as the reference to a "little legal bind for you I will get any more attention."

As for I Israel, since you asked,

Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
Rom 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
Rom 11:3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
Rom 11:4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

well, that was just one i ran across in my morning read in psalms--so then, we're gonna start arguing about whether Israel is blessed today, then, i guess...

A final reflection--that i was reluctant to post, but keep getting the unction on--that maybe also is not for the Rs:

I was out watering the yard yesterday, tryna bring my mom's yard back, as she has her house for sale. Well, my dad stops me, and says not to water until after sundown, as he heard somewhere that you lose up to 30% of the water to evaporation when the sun is up. So, i did what he said, put the hose away, even tho the yard was baking, and i'm in N Ft Myers, FL--meaning that 85% humidity is considered a crisp day here. Now, i'm not going to bother telling my 80 year old father that that was surely up to 30% water loss, say like for Phoenix or somewhere else ultra-low humidity; not because i'm not right, and not because the yard is dying for lack of a twice a day watering right now, but because he would not be able to hear me.

I don't know what God thinks of women in the ministry; but i do know that there are signs that we can look for--and R, i noticed you haven't mentioned how your attendance is lately, either.

Thorns do not bear figs, we are told, and if a ministry bears fruit, then how can we judge it? I think the word minister has been sorely stretched to death, if it requires some certificate from whoever to be acceptable, anyway.

[RJR]

Originally Posted by shazeep

well, that was just one i ran across in my morning read in psalms--so then, we're gonna start arguing about whether Israel is blessed today, then, i guess...

A final reflection--that i was reluctant to post, but keep getting the unction on--that maybe also is not for the Rs:

I was out watering the yard yesterday, tryna bring my mom's yard back, as she has her house for sale. Well, my dad stops me, and says not to water until after sundown, as he heard somewhere that you lose up to 30% of the water to evaporation when the sun is up. So, i did what he said, put the hose away, even tho the yard was baking, and i'm in N Ft Myers, FL--meaning that 85% humidity is considered a crisp day here. Now, i'm not going to bother telling my 80 year old father that that was surely up to 30% water loss, say like for Phoenix or somewhere else ultra-low humidity; not because i'm not right, and not because the yard is dying for lack of a twice a day watering right now, but because he would not be able to hear me.

I don't know what God thinks of women in the ministry; but i do know that there are signs that we can look for--and R, i noticed you haven't mentioned how your attendance is lately, either.

Thorns do not bear figs, we are told, and if a ministry bears fruit, then how can we judge it? I think the word minister has been sorely stretched to death, if it requires some certificate from whoever to be acceptable, anyway.

Your unctions do not make sense either. Attendance is good, Ty, even though that doesn't have anything to do with the discussion. You can take your posts and direct them to somewhere since they do not make any sense, neither has any bearing on the discussion. I think I will take your advice and ignore, thx.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by RJR

Your unctions do not make sense either. Attendance is good, Ty, even though that doesn't have anything to do with the discussion. You can take your posts and direct them to somewhere since they do not make any sense, neither has any bearing on the discussion. I think I will take your advice and ignore, thx.

ok, well, i'm certainly not interested in a whizzing match on what 'enlarging your borders' means; and yes, it has everything to do with the discussion--it's just surely a touchy subject for you, and so of course you will do your best to invalidate it. I do not seek to make sense to you, i hope you understand, but merely to provide a possibly more spiritual balance to your extreme legalism. peace to you.