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Originally Posted by n david
You continue to show that you're not getting it. I don't care about any of this...it has absolutely nothing to do with my point. All I want is for everyone to be free to have an opinion. Thus far within just the past month, I've seen where if your opinion happens to be against gay marriage or homosexuality, you're labeled a bigot, fired, forced to resign or get brainwashed.
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Actually, I mostly agree with this. I think people actually have the right to be bigots, and racists, and zealots, or whatever (that actually sounds less nice then I mean it, but I am talking the extreme of the spectrum). However, there is a time and a place for sharing your views. AND if you are in a position where your views could negatively effect the bottom line of the corporate profits, then, I can see where it's probably going to get you fired.
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Originally Posted by ndavid
Oh please. People keep trying to project gays into the bible. First it was the centurion's slave, now this. Hogwash.
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LOL, that wasn't my intention at all. Though, I'm sure there WERE gay people in biblical times. My point was (and if you hear nothing else I said, please hear this) IS when it comes to gay people WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?
How would he respond, how would he react to them, how would he treat them? He had a reputation for hanging out with sinners. He loved them. He called them friend.
The ONLY people that
disgusted him, were the thieves in the temple, and the Pharisees. Not those that the law considered unclean, not those living sinful lives, not those who were far from God.
Matthew 9:9-13 (New International Version)
The Calling of Matthew
9 As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collector’s booth. “Follow me,” he told him, and Matthew got up and followed him.
10 While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and sinners came and ate with him and his disciples. 11 When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”
12 On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 13
But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’[a] For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”
As Christians we need to focus less on what everyone else is doing, and ask if we are being Jesus to the world.
Sometimes we succeed. I left the church and for a long time anything having to do with organized Christianity. I had premarital sex. My boyfriend moved in with me. I got pregnant out of wedlock. At which point I knowingly and purposely married an Atheist.
And yet people have loved me, and embraced me and prayed for me, and called me friend and sister. Even though I do not regret my actions. (I love my husband and daughter so much, I'd do it again.)
And you know what I don't get? Judgement. I don't get "don't be unequally yoked" shoved down my throat when I share my struggles to share Jesus with my toddler and my husbands objections. I get love and understanding and prayers.
And I know what most believe. I know where they stand spiritually on my life decisions, and my spiritual views, etc. And yet they show me love. And so I see Jesus in that.
I just don't understand why that same love can't be shown to gay people. It doesn't mean that you accept their life choices, just that you accept and love them because they are made in the image of Jesus, and He loves them.
I don't mean to sound preachy, and I know this isn't even the topic. It just saddens me.
(I'll go back and read and address the other things you said. But i'll warn you that you'll most likely be disappointed, I tend to debate with emotion and life experience, not rhetoric)
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