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Originally Posted by n david
LoL. And there it is. Let me ask you...are all people who do not accept homosexuality (ie majority of Christians) bigots? Also, the Mozilla CEO wasn't sharing his views. He wasn't talking about anything. He simply donated money to the Prop8 campaign and a gay group found it and made a big deal out of it. And the HGTV cast members also said nothing on the show....it was because of personal beliefs said before the show was made which the same gay group made a big deal of. What's happening isn't people harassing gays at work, it's been things done personally, and away from work.
He wouldn't celebrate their sin.
I'm sorry, but Jesus did not call the sinners "friend." This is a common error, often repeated. It was others who said Jesus was a friend of publicans and sinners; however, Jesus Himself never once called them friend.
What did Jesus tell the woman caught in adultery? Did He hug her and bid her blessings? No. He said, "Go, and sin no more." It's fallacy to think Jesus would not do the same with a homosexual.
Did you leave out the last part of that verse intentionally, or by accident.
Matthew 9:13 KJV
But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Big difference. Huge! Jesus came, not to call the righteous, but call the sinner... To what, hang out and enjoy each others company? No! Call them to REPENTANCE! To change their lives. To leave their life of sin. |
Actually, no, I meant to post that verse, that was actually the main verse I wanted! Because I wanted to point out that Jesus is about compassion and mercy.
This whole conversation has just made me so sad. Like, tears rolling down your cheeks at work, and the feeling that there is just an irreconcilable difference and no amount of conversation is going to change that.
Usually this only happens when I am trying to convince my husband that sunday school once a week will not scar our daughter for life.
You know that feeling, when you feel so strongly that God is telling you something or has shown you something, or impressed something upon your soul, and others don't get it or think you're crazy or just plain deceived?
When I think of how Jesus wooed me, how He forgives my blindness and my weaknesses and always reaches out for me when I fall short, His infinite patience when I've turned away, and most of all the reminder that nothing I do will ever increase or decrease the love He has for me.
I don't know much. I don't usually claim the title of Christian. I've been to a church 3 times in the past 7 years. (all in the last month) I came from a horrible place spiritually, go back, look for posts in 2007 under Michlow, and you will find plenty of bitterness, and anger, and despair and confusion. And I felt alone and rejected and abandoned.
For a long time, I couldn't see any light, only darkness. And it was only through the patient, unconditional love of Jesus that I was emotionally, and spiritually healed.
So I guess I feel a burden to be to others what Jesus was to me.
But I want to apologize, because I think in my zeal, I came off as judgmental and harsh, and that wasn't my intention. I just feel such a burden for those that feel that the church, and Christians, and God have rejected and abandoned them.
I already confessed that I don't morally have a problem with same-sex monogamous relationships. But ultimately, I believe that if I can show people Jesus, and He draws them near, He will show them what He wants of their lives.
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