Water/Spirit Doctrine Destroyed Beautifully

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Sorry, Sean, but I have to ruh-roh, Prax here. He is right.

Sean agrees with prax an prax agrees with Sean. Being born again is optional. You don't have to so it. However if u want to go to heaven... It is a requirement for that

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Sean agrees with prax an prax agrees with Sean. Being born again is optional. You don't have to so it. However if u want to go to heaven... It is a requirement for that

At last!

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

At last!

Don't get ur hopes up.. I was speaking for sean

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Don't get ur hopes up.. I was speaking for sean

Awww what a disappointment.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Sean agrees with prax an prax agrees with Sean. Being born again is optional. You don't have to so it. However if u want to go to heaven... It is a requirement for that

Sean's comment, here, suggests that "except" in the Greek is defined as "optional". That is what, I believe, Prax was addressing.

Originally Posted by Sean

[COLOR="Red"]The word "except" is used in the passage 2 times. Verse 5 for both water and Spirit, meaning "unless", which makes Spirit optional.

Notice that I agree with what Sean is trying to imply, while agreeing with the technicality of definition concerning the word "except" that Prax offered.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

If you are saying, which you are, a person has a choice, that is true. But, technically, the word "except" implies "exclusion".