Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Father?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Everyone but MtD seems to be missing the point I'm making. I have not and so far, do not plan to, dive into the theological aspect of this discussion.

I am merely making the point that words have meaning, and we can't just use them however we want. Since I am not a Trinitarian, nor ever have been, nor ever will be, I will never use the word Trinitarian to describe myself or my theological understanding of the Godhead.

Why? Because I do not affirm the Trinitarian view of God.

So, if I do not affirm the Oneness view of the Godhead, then likewise I should not call myself Oneness.

Think about the average man on the street:

You say, "Hi, I'm a Oneness believer in Jesus Christ"

They say, "Oh, you believe Jesus is the Father?"

You say, "Nope, I don't believe Jesus is the Father."

They say, "Then you aren't Oneness."

See what I mean?

Bro. I see your point, but I produced those passages to show you the way the Bible looks to a TRINITARIAN...We must have a better explanation than just...JESUS IS THE FATHER and THE FATHER IS JESUS.

These folks need a clear explanation.
I believe Jesus is the Father, because he was indwelled by the Father and the Words/Works were done through him by the indwelling Father.

Jesus was however, a real live human being that admittedly had a GOD.

Many of our oneness explanations seem like a lot of technical jargon to them in my opinion.

Many of us struggle with the thought of Jesus being a human being and having a God(Father).