Does Jesus have a child?

Timmy · #1 11-22-2014, 07:49 PM

Is Jesus one of Jesus's sons?

mfblume · #2 11-22-2014, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

Is Jesus one of Jesus's sons?

In one sense, yes. In another sense, no.

mfblume · #3 11-22-2014, 09:04 PM

The whole problem i see with all these questions is that people are throwing what is a dilemma to human beings due to our limited faculties, but is not a limitation for God who is GOD. God is not limited to the status of a creature that can only do certain things and no more.

It always amazes me how this is such an overlooked issue.

To us, being our own child is impossible! It can only be an imagined situation from an unhealthy mind that cannot reason properly. And in reality it is not real at all. And that's why people give all these answers that God is schizoid if oneness is true. lol

Our human personhood does not have the ability to manifest in a genuine manner as a human being as though it was a SON to us.... we become our own son. But God is not restricted like that. God is not a human being. lol. FOR THE TENTH TIME God is not a human being with restrictions. He manifested as a human being but his starting point was GOD, unlike us who cannot manifest as another human because we can only but start to do anything from the beginning of being human, and that simply disallows for us to do what God can do.

So, God, who can do what we cannot in untold millions of areas, manifested Himself as the SON OF GOD. From THAT perspective of HIS PERSON, the person of His son being one with that of God, HE IS HIS OWN SON. But from the perspective of his existence as God and the manifestation of His person as a human being, God is not a human being as per GODHOOD any more than the humanity of the Son of God is deity. Humanity is not deity. It never was nor ever can be. Humanity and Godhood are forever distinct. So, in regards to His human manifestation contrasted from His Deity, He is not His own Son. But from the perspective of the common person in GOD (who can do far more than we can), and SON OF GOD, He IS His own Son.

It's like saying that if I can turn myself into a table and a chair at the same time, the table is not the chair, but in the sense that I turned myself into both of those things, and the subject is ME, then the table is the chair.

mfblume · #4 11-22-2014, 11:22 PM

Jesus is not a human being manifesting as another human being. He is GOD manifesting as a human being. That's quite a different picture, isn't it? And so we think of a human being as his own son and laugh at the thought of God becoming manifested in flesh as His Son.

People...

thephnxman · #5 11-28-2014, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

The whole problem i see with all these questions is that people are throwing what is a dilemma to human beings due to our limited faculties, but is not a limitation for God who is GOD. God is not limited to the status of a creature that can only do certain things and no more.

It always amazes me how this is such an overlooked issue.

To us, being our own child is impossible! It can only be an imagined situation from an unhealthy mind that cannot reason properly. And in reality it is not real at all. And that's why people give all these answers that God is schizoid if oneness is true. lol

Our human personhood does not have the ability to manifest in a genuine manner as a human being as though it was a SON to us.... we become our own son. But God is not restricted like that. God is not a human being. lol. FOR THE TENTH TIME God is not a human being with restrictions. He manifested as a human being but his starting point was GOD, unlike us who cannot manifest as another human because we can only but start to do anything from the beginning of being human, and that simply disallows for us to do what God can do.

So, God, who can do what we cannot in untold millions of areas, manifested Himself as the SON OF GOD. From THAT perspective of HIS PERSON, the person of His son being one with that of God, HE IS HIS OWN SON. But from the perspective of his existence as God and the manifestation of His person as a human being, God is not a human being as per GODHOOD any more than the humanity of the Son of God is deity. Humanity is not deity. It never was nor ever can be. Humanity and Godhood are forever distinct. So, in regards to His human manifestation contrasted from His Deity, He is not His own Son. But from the perspective of the common person in GOD (who can do far more than we can), and SON OF GOD, He IS His own Son.

It's like saying that if I can turn myself into a table and a chair at the same time, the table is not the chair, but in the sense that I turned myself into both of those things, and the subject is ME, then the table is the chair.

Good try!