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Old 01-04-2015, 07:04 AM
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Re: Islam: A Religion of Lies...

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Moses is speaking and Moses allowed divorce as well.
Jesus corrected the rabbinic views when He said:
(Mat 19:3 KJV) The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
(Mat 19:4 KJV) And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
(Mat 19:5 KJV) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
(Mat 19:6 KJV) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Jesus clearly pointed back to the original created order of man. In the beginning God created one man and one woman in full maturity. They were a couple. This is the created order and what God has ordained as good and holy. Because, of the hardness of their heart Moses allowed divorce:
(Mat 19:7 KJV) They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
(Mat 19:8 KJV) He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
(Mat 19:9 KJV) And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

It never ceases to amaze me. The lengths people will go to justify themselves.
Seems they will go long lengths. Even so far as to take an argument on divorce and use it as an argument about marriage. You could really nail Mohammed ASW with this one, have him pinned cold, if he had only divorced that girl instead of staying with her until he died. Mannnnnnnnn so close - I know right?

Now lemme see if I get this.

Moses allowed divorce, because hearts were hard. Jesus clarified cause for divorce as limited to fornication by the married party. From this, it can be determined that everyone declared righteous in your bible from long before moses (or jews for that matter) to long after moses who took more than one wife or who captured a girl and took her to their household was actually sinning, even though there is nothing about this anywhere that uses the word sin this can be mined like bitcoin from the above passage by those of elevated understanding.

You must be a preacher.

Naturally Jesus did not actually say anything like that in his discussion of divorce and rules for divorce and said nothing about what age does or does not constitute a wife though He had the floor and a captive audience but it's all there in that passage about divorce, and you are the one, after 2000+ years, who has been set up to clarify what Jesus MUST have MEANT to say for the rest of the planet.

Pass the plate, I have something special to put into it for you.

So sure, Pliny you are "probably" right. It makes perfect sense. As much sense as the "Probably" captured captive girls who had the rest of their family "killed in battle you said?" grew up, attended ACE schools, and happily assimilated into the culture of loving biblical marriage after a month off to pull themselves together.

"Taking prepubescent girls who have never known a man for yourselves" was allowed in one passage and the process for doing it was clearly described in another passage. That was my earlier point since you asked.

You left out the passage about rape victims who don't call out getting stoned with their rapist and you failed to point out that a rapist is only punished for forcing himself on a girl who is already promised to someone else, otherwise he is rewarded with the girl he raped, for life. Biblical marriage is wonderful, if you are a man, right? Those passages fall under "thus says the LORD" and cannot be attributed to Moses.

I am in no way obligated to supply you with chapter and verse - if you doubt what is posted go find it yourself. It's your book, you're supposed to know it and if you have to do a little work to find it whine elsewhere.

You received some good advice from your peers earlier today. Take it. You're getting nowhere here.

Last edited by Walks_in_islam; 01-04-2015 at 08:59 AM.
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