Islam: A Religion of Lies...

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Of course. Line up and butcher every single soul, including the parents of these young children, and keep them based on no criteria other than their sexual status.

Typical of critics who don’t care about truth. A classic example of someone who knows nothing of exegesis or the science of hermeneutics. It is well understood that Israel was not allowed to go to the Promised Land until a particular time (Gen. 15:16).

BTW you have once again revealed your utter lack of being able to cite anything properly. If you are going to cite something, intellectual honesty requires you let the reader know where the citation comes from. So when you quote the Bible as a source let the reader know what passage and translation the verse comes from. I am just trying to help you to keep from looking foolish.

God has the right to condemn sin. He did this with the flood and confusion of languages. He did this with Sodom and Gomorrah and He did it through the children of Israel when entering the Promised Land. He will do so once again in the future.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

This is the word of God from your bible.

When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife.

Once again you have failed to establish where the citation comes from. You say the Bible but not where in the Bible it’s found. Extremely sloppy on your part. That’s okay I can help you again:

(Deu 21:10 KJV) When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
(Deu 21:11 KJV) And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
(Deu 21:12 KJV) Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
(Deu 21:13 KJV) And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.

And your point is what exactly?

Here once again I will help you. Even that carnal man known as Josephus speaks of this passage in these terms:
“But now, if any man take captive, either a virgin, or one that hath been married, and has a mind to marry her (see note below), let him not be allowed to bring her to bed to him, or to live with her as his wife, before she hath her head shaven, and hath put on her mourning habit, and lamented her relations and friends that were slain in the battle, that by this means she may give vent to her sorrow for them, and after that may betake herself to feasting and matrimony; for it is good for him that takes a woman, in order to have children by her, to be complaisant to her inclinations…”
Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews, Book 4, Chapter 8, Section 23 (BTW this is called documentation)

Note: Here it is supposed that this captive's husband, if she were before a married woman, was dead before, or rather was slain in this very battle, otherwise it would have been adultery in him that married her.

Any intellectually honest person will see that the man was not allowed to “know” her like we see with muslims across the globe. Like ISIS who have setup brothels from the captives they have taken.

After she has mourned she can marry, indicating she wants to be married and not forced or coerced like we see today by, you guessed it – muslims.
“The world reacted in horror and revulsion at the kidnapping of 276 Nigerian schoolgirls in April. But twice as many Coptic Christian schoolgirls in Egypt have vanished slowly, one-by-one, in kidnappings that remain unsolved.

Since January, 2011 through March, 2014, over 550 Christian girls were kidnapped by Muslim men and forced to convert and marry their abductors, often after suffering violence at the hands of their kidnappers, according to the Association of Victims of Abduction and Forced Disappearance (AVAFD).”
http://blog.godreports.com/2014/06/o...pt-since-2011/

Oh yeah, one more thing. Muslims are doing this TODAY not thousands of years ago.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

How beautiful "covenant marriages between one man and one woman" can be. I am touched and you of course have not succeeded in running the sword of truth right through my conscience.

Not surprising:
(2Th 2:7 KJV) For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
(2Th 2:8 KJV) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
(2Th 2:9 KJV) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
(2Th 2:10 KJV) And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
(2Th 2:11 KJV) And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
(2Th 2:12 KJV) That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

You have spent a lot of time defending the manipulation and exploitation of prepubescent girls. How sick and deceived you must be. You should spend as much time telling you imams to stop teaching sharia. LOL! See how that works for you since sharia is based on the example and teachings of Muhammad.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

"One man and one woman". You sound like a good white conservative and of course I am sure you always have the proper haircut.

What an utterly ignorant statement. Revealing the desperate need you seem to have to validate your perverted prophet. LOL!

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Except:
If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons but the firstborn is the son of the wife he does not love, when he wills his property to his sons, he must not give the rights of the firstborn to the son of the wife he loves in preference to his actual firstborn, the son of the wife he does not love. He must acknowledge the son of his unloved wife as the firstborn by giving him a double share of all he has. That son is the first sign of his father’s strength. The right of the firstborn belongs to him.

Here allow me to help you once again with your citation. LOL!
(Deu 21:15 KJV) If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:

Moses is speaking and Moses allowed divorce as well.
Jesus corrected the rabbinic views when He said:
(Mat 19:3 KJV) The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
(Mat 19:4 KJV) And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
(Mat 19:5 KJV) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
(Mat 19:6 KJV) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Jesus clearly pointed back to the original created order of man. In the beginning God created one man and one woman in full maturity. They were a couple. This is the created order and what God has ordained as good and holy. Because, of the hardness of their heart Moses allowed divorce:
(Mat 19:7 KJV) They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
(Mat 19:8 KJV) He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
(Mat 19:9 KJV) And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Likewise, Moses is speaking to Israel and due to the hardness of their heart, remember them wandering around the wilderness for forty years, allowed this. God did not approve it and we see Jesus addressing a very similar issue later and pointing men back to the beginning for what God approves. In fact Gill’s commentary puts it this way:

Gill:
“If a man have two wives,.... Which is supposed, but not approved of, though permitted because of the hardness of men's hearts; for it was not so from the beginning, when only one man and one woman were created, and joined together in marriage;”

It never ceases to amaze me. The lengths people will go to justify themselves.

TBC