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Originally Posted by Ron
I do not have no burden of proof either way, the Bible does not delve into too much about the Angelic hosts.
On what I posted it is not a Salvation issue to me, Acts 2:38 is, I asked Bro Bennicasa if he has something better, I am open!
I do not debate just for the sake of debating, not healthy, nor does it edify!
Bro Bennicasa knows what I believe & he knows, or should know that I hold no ill will towards him, and if he has something else to add--I am all ears.
Bowas, forgive me if I am wrong here, but methinks you take this forum a little too seriously then you should!
I have nothing to prove, those who believe me, will do so, those who do not, will do so as well.
I will sleep well tonight.
I am off to take the kids to youth night & then my wife & I will be taking a new saint out for coffee & fellowship at Tim Horton's!
Glory to God!  |
I'm just asking how lucifer means angel? Where is the word lucifer used for an angel of the highest order? How is the word lucifer found among a three angel line up? Consisting of Michael, Gabriel, & an angel NAMED lucifer? Also does anyone know where the "word" lucifer is found in any other place in the Bible? I love you Ron, and I'm just asking you a question for the statements you made in a post. Bowas is merely stating that since you had all that other information you would also know the origins. The two places in Ezekiel and Isaiah are taught as if it were speaking of the fall of Satan, but it isn't specifically pointing that out other than Ezekiel brings up a covering cherub actually means a place Kerub
Ezra 2:59,
Neh. 7:61, which Ezekiel is calling the King of Tyre the guardian of Kerub, not covering Cherubim, like the six winged angels in the beginning of Ezekiel. Now, this is debatable, but in context we see that in
Ezekiel 28:5 the King of Tyre made himself wealthy through commerce, and it was this commerce which causes him to be seated in the midst of the seas
Ezekiel 28:2. This is a clear indicator of how powerful he was in commerce. He made himself wealthy.
Ezekiel 28:7 God through the prophet warns the King of Tyre that he will bring nations against him, this isn't speaking of the fall of an angel from heaven. The King of Tyre is being foretold his death by approaching armies slain in the middle of his place of commerce
Ezekiel 28:8. The prophet now tells the king that even when he is being assassinated he will tell his assassins that he is GOD, yet dying proving he is just a man
Ezekiel 28:9-10.
Ezekiel 28:11-15 describes the King of Tyre as being the the most wealthiest, and knowledgeable (in commerce of trade) then any other king. Yet in
Ezekiel 28:16 we find that the king falls because his wealth corrupted him, and therefore God rejects him.
Ezekiel 28:17-18 explains that because of his commerce, trafficking, wealth through trade he blows off God, and therefore he is made an example to other KINGS.
Ezekiel 28:19 finishes it all off by saying how God destroys the king before all people rubbed out for all ages. Again, specifically speaking of a king, not an angel. Still even if we say the word cherub means a six winged four faced creature, the king is being called the guardian cherub of Eden. That's not the devil folks that's the one with the flaming sword.
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