Why was Lucifer in heaven?

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I'm just asking how lucifer means angel? Where is the word lucifer used for an angel of the highest order? How is the word lucifer found among a three angel line up? Consisting of Michael, Gabriel, & an angel NAMED lucifer? Also does anyone know where the "word" lucifer is found in any other place in the Bible? I love you Ron, and I'm just asking you a question for the statements you made in a post. Bowas is merely stating that since you had all that other information you would also know the origins. The two places in Ezekiel and Isaiah are taught as if it were speaking of the fall of Satan, but it isn't specifically pointing that out other than Ezekiel brings up a covering cherub actually means a place Kerub Ezra 2:59, Neh. 7:61, which Ezekiel is calling the King of Tyre the guardian of Kerub, not covering Cherubim, like the six winged angels in the beginning of Ezekiel. Now, this is debatable, but in context we see that in Ezekiel 28:5 the King of Tyre made himself wealthy through commerce, and it was this commerce which causes him to be seated in the midst of the seas Ezekiel 28:2. This is a clear indicator of how powerful he was in commerce. He made himself wealthy. Ezekiel 28:7 God through the prophet warns the King of Tyre that he will bring nations against him, this isn't speaking of the fall of an angel from heaven. The King of Tyre is being foretold his death by approaching armies slain in the middle of his place of commerce Ezekiel 28:8. The prophet now tells the king that even when he is being assassinated he will tell his assassins that he is GOD, yet dying proving he is just a man Ezekiel 28:9-10. Ezekiel 28:11-15 describes the King of Tyre as being the the most wealthiest, and knowledgeable (in commerce of trade) then any other king. Yet in Ezekiel 28:16 we find that the king falls because his wealth corrupted him, and therefore God rejects him. Ezekiel 28:17-18 explains that because of his commerce, trafficking, wealth through trade he blows off God, and therefore he is made an example to other KINGS. Ezekiel 28:19 finishes it all off by saying how God destroys the king before all people rubbed out for all ages. Again, specifically speaking of a king, not an angel. Still even if we say the word cherub means a six winged four faced creature, the king is being called the guardian cherub of Eden. That's not the devil folks that's the one with the flaming sword.

I believe I have been taught that this passage in Luke is referring to the Ezekiel account regarding Lucifer.

Luke 10:18 "And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven."

I never really looked at that closely until today, and I thought this was interesting what Barnes wrote, which means you need to read the previous verse:

Luke 10:17 "And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. (18) And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven."

I beheld Satan ... - “Satan” here denotes evidently the prince of the devils who had been cast out by the seventy disciples, for the discourse was respecting their power over evil spirits. “Lightning” is an image of “rapidity” or “quickness.” I saw Satan fall “quickly” or rapidly - as quick as lightning. The phrase “from heaven” is to be referred to the lightning, and does not mean that he saw “Satan” fall “from heaven,” but that he fell as quick as lightning from heaven or from the clouds. The whole expression then may mean, “I saw at your command devils immediately depart, as quick as the flash of lightning. I gave you this power - I saw it put forth - and I give also now, in addition to this, the power to tread on serpents,” etc. - Barnes