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Old 06-02-2007, 07:58 PM
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Many illegals are paid under the table and don't pay taxes. Come on...if the employer can get away with paying them peanuts, why would have put it on paper so he can get in trouble for paying people less than minimum?
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:24 PM
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Many illegals are paid under the table and don't pay taxes. Come on...if the employer can get away with paying them peanuts, why would have put it on paper so he can get in trouble for paying people less than minimum?
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HO says many don't pay taxes
DA says Many DO pay taxes......

Does anyone have facts or is this just all emotional hot air?
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:43 PM
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HO says many don't pay taxes
DA says Many DO pay taxes......

Does anyone have facts or is this just all emotional hot air?

Come on, Prax. You honestly believe that illegals are getting paid full wages on the books????

Everyone knows that you can pay an illegal pennies for every dollar an American would make, and get more work done for it also.

If I owned a business and illegals would help me, I'd hire them. But I would pay them full wages...I'd still get more done!
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Come on, Prax. You honestly believe that illegals are getting paid full wages on the books????
Please show me where I mentioned them getting paid full wages...

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Everyone knows that you can pay an illegal pennies for every dollar an American would make, and get more work done for it also.
I was the one making that argument as to WHY they hire illegals and not Americans

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If I owned a business and illegals would help me, I'd hire them. But I would pay them full wages...I'd still get more done!
Remember my initial post was that it's NOT completely true that these are jobs that Americans just don't want.
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:53 PM
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Please show me where I mentioned them getting paid full wages...
Show me where I said you did.

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I was the one making that argument as to WHY they hire illegals and not Americans


Remember my initial post was that it's NOT completely true that these are jobs that Americans just don't want.
I agree, but I see more Americans on the street holding signs that say, 'will work for food' until you ask them to come over and work....they suddenly aren't that hungry.

I have yet to see illegals doing that. Instead, they are out working...even if they are making less than minimum wage.
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Show me where I said you did.
Please explain what I posted that made you say this to me

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Come on, Prax. You honestly believe that illegals are getting paid full wages on the books????
I don't get that...what did I say that made you ask me that? I did not post a thing that even addressed the topic that illegals are getting paid full wages. As I stated they are NOT getting paid full wages and that is why they are being hired instead of Americans

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I agree, but I see more Americans on the street holding signs that say, 'will work for food' until you ask them to come over and work....they suddenly aren't that hungry.
The percentage of Americans do that is low NOR does that show that Americans would refuse to work a construction job or a cleaning job if not paid "illegal slave wages"

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I have yet to see illegals doing that. Instead, they are out working...even if they are making less than minimum wage.
Again, that does not prove that Americans would NOT take those jobs if offered more than illegal slave waves. Americans have also been known to rape, kill and steal, but that does not mean they all do it
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Old 06-03-2007, 12:33 AM
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Please explain what I posted that made you say this to me



I don't get that...what did I say that made you ask me that? I did not post a thing that even addressed the topic that illegals are getting paid full wages. As I stated they are NOT getting paid full wages and that is why they are being hired instead of Americans


The percentage of Americans do that is low NOR does that show that Americans would refuse to work a construction job or a cleaning job if not paid "illegal slave wages"


Again, that does not prove that Americans would NOT take those jobs if offered more than illegal slave waves. Americans have also been known to rape, kill and steal, but that does not mean they all do it
Where's the 'slapping my forehead' smiley?

I didn't say anything about Americans not taking jobs that illegals do, so why do you keep talking to me about it?
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Old 06-03-2007, 12:31 AM
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Please show me where I mentioned them getting paid full wages...


I was the one making that argument as to WHY they hire illegals and not Americans


Remember my initial post was that it's NOT completely true that these are jobs that Americans just don't want.
Then why are you asking others for facts if you aren't supplying them yourself with your claims?

You confuse me!
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Then why are you asking others for facts if you aren't supplying them yourself with your claims?

You confuse me!
Let me recap...you asked me

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Come on, Prax. You honestly believe that illegals are getting paid full wages on the books????

As though I said somewhere that illegals were getting paid FULL wages. Now then I asked you where I said they were getting full wages and you replied where did you ever say I said that and now I am twice providing the quote. YOu said the above and I am asking again what in my post, where you qouted me, had me saying Illegals get paid full benefits? You confuse me. I did not say one thing about them getting paid full benefits, yet you asked me this
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Old 06-03-2007, 12:40 AM
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Let me recap...you asked me

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Come on, Prax. You honestly believe that illegals are getting paid full wages on the books????

As though I said somewhere that illegals were getting paid FULL wages. Now then I asked you where I said they were getting full wages and you replied where did you ever say I said that and now I am twice providing the quote. YOu said the above and I am asking again what in my post, where you qouted me, had me saying Illegals get paid full benefits? You confuse me. I did not say one thing about them getting paid full benefits, yet you asked me this
That's right.....I asked, not said that you stated it. It was a 'yes' or 'no' question. Simple. Quit making it a big deal.
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