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View Poll Results: Is Acts 2:38 as described below the only new birth
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Old 01-07-2016, 12:39 PM
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"What remits sins?"

"A good deed covers many sins."
"love covers all sin Proverbs 10:12"

I personally believe the love referred to, is when Christ died for all of us. I don't think anyone here will disagree with you on the importance of love, but we must understand who's love. Without God there is no love. Scripture says if we love him we will keep his commandments. This isn't about being legalistic and earning our salvation, but it is about a love for God that causes us to want to know him and obey him.

In those cases where someone truly has never heard the truth; I would never condemn them to hell, but it is God who they will stand before. I would hate to stand before God having rejected God's word for some deeper enlightenment I received from my human comprehension about man's love.

When I stand before God I want to have adhered to God's word and also taught others to as well. Any deeper illumination than the word reveals is not for us, but for God. The scripture is our roadmap to a relationship to God and to salvation. It is not our own love that we need, but the love of God shone into our lives. Therefore it isn't our works that saves us, but the love and mercy of God that brings about obedience and good outward works in our lives.
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Re: New Birth

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"love covers all sin Proverbs 10:12"

I personally believe the love referred to, is when Christ died for all of us. I don't think anyone here will disagree with you on the importance of love, but we must understand who's love. Without God there is no love. Scripture says if we love him we will keep his commandments. This isn't about being legalistic and earning our salvation, but it is about a love for God that causes us to want to know him and obey him.

In those cases where someone truly has never heard the truth; I would never condemn them to hell, but it is God who they will stand before. I would hate to stand before God having rejected God's word for some deeper enlightenment I received from my human comprehension about man's love.

When I stand before God I want to have adhered to God's word and also taught others to as well. Any deeper illumination than the word reveals is not for us, but for God. The scripture is our roadmap to a relationship to God and to salvation. It is not our own love that we need, but the love of God shone into our lives. Therefore it isn't our works that saves us, but the love and mercy of God that brings about obedience and good outward works in our lives.
To this i would mostly say "amen!" But also, Love your neighbor as yourself is not "man's love," or some kind of hippy feel-good love; rather it is what we all mostly fail at. If you want to be rewarded for doing what Scripture says, see that i am not calling you deeper, but shallower, to a child's understanding. My argument is that one has already gotten too deep, if they assume they are qualified to judge others based upon their terminally faulty interpretations.

So i would say that the love being referred to is up there in those verses, above. If you don't have them, you don't have Christ anyway, so why even talk about Him.

14For the entire law is fulfilled in one statement: Love your neighbor as yourself.


and if you are so privileged as to have the other tenth, this love should be more evident in you, not less. But of course a little knowledge is often the worst thing that can happen to a person. Everyone knows how that feels.

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