Numerical Growth Is Not A Sign Of Revival...

[allstate1]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ok, well, i used to believe that, and now i believe OPs are Constantinianism 2.0, not to say that some OPs--most likely 4 --won't figure it out

I don't understand you. not being sarcastic. In your belief how and when is one saved?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by allstate1

I don't understand you. not being sarcastic. In your belief how and when is one saved?

well, when they "hold out to the end," as Scripture says--assuming that they ever even begin "holding out," that is. How many new converts would be interested if you told them that they had to abandon their old way of life and leave the world, or they were doomed? Of course, we do not have the community for them to leave the world for; but neither did the Apostles, in going out to various towns, with no extra shirt, etc.

[allstate1]

Originally Posted by shazeep

well, when they "hold out to the end," as Scripture says--assuming that they ever even begin "holding out," that is. How many new converts would be interested if you told them that they had to abandon their old way of life and leave the world, or they were doomed? Of course, we do not have the community for them to leave the world for; but neither did the Apostles, in going out to various towns, with no extra shirt, etc.

Im sorry I must be blonde I cannot follow your thought pattern.

[shazeep]

with all due respect, if your point is that Constantine did it right, then your religion is dead.

Originally Posted by allstate1

Im sorry I must be blonde I cannot follow your thought pattern.

ya, i get that a lot.