Are all Catholics lost?

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Originally Posted by Jason B

You back up your views with scripture? Like we should never tell anyone to repent lest their feelings get hurt?

well, i can only speak for myself, but i note that when i suggest that anyone repent of their ungodly attitude here, it is not accepted very well, is it? I have yet to get so much as a "hmm, maybe i'll have to take a look at that, ty." All i seem to be getting is either misdirection at the important points or "since i'm so sure that all Catholics are lost, i will post my justifications."

So it might be more beneficial all around to stop doing rebound (repentance) in a religious sense, and understand how it is accomplished in the everyday sense, which is the more spiritual, anyway--when someone wrongs you, you tell them how you have been offended, and they either express remorse and ask forgiveness or they do not, and you either forgive them regardless or follow Mike's stated understanding, at least until he changes his mind, or failing that changes his speech, which he has been given multiple opportunities to do now, so i have to believe that he is satisfied with his stated view on executing the Golden Rule, "I'm kind to them what's kind to me."

And we have examples of when the spirit is not represented, in demanding that your child apologize for some sin that they are not sorry for; and examples of when the spirit really shines, when you do not even take offense, and the guilty then have burning coals heaped on their head.

But you mean some religious thing, some essentially self-serving action done from fear of hell, not fear of having offended anyone, wadr. If you have to tell someone that they should repent of their evil deeds, and seek forgiveness, it becomes pertinent to ask which are they, a child or an imbecile?

Of course you mean to lead people to Christ in this manner, but see how that may actually be worse, and not better? Sure, a few people will eventually grasp that they deserve death even if they have been forgiven, and so come to some legal understanding of the need for Christ--as a religious icon, a get out of jail free card. But if you are confident in condemning Catholics you have never met for their doctrine, while blind to how they may be manifesting Christ despite their doctrine, then what have you really done? Of course we have many sweet spirits even in OP, and for all i know you guys are among them; i note that it is hard to get those types to defend doctrine much in real life, so we are kind of intentionally in a sort of bubble here.

So, to directly answer your question--i am telling you to repent (assuming you believe and teach that All Catholics Are Lost, of course); what is your reply?