It's Your Fault People Are Homosexual by Emma

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Aquila

It isn't that easy. Many have twisted up the notion that being "born" with an innate sinful proclivity such as homosexuality is the same as arguing that it isn't a "sin". When a gay person says, "I was born this way.", I typically answer, "We're all born sinners, my friend."

Ok here goes some sacred cows.

Help me Jeebus...

God set into motion His entire creation and He commanded Adam and Eve to "Be fruitful and multiply."

So He gave two perfect beings the ability to self replicate and said,"I made you, now you scamper off and make more of yourselves."

Meaning that the process of replication was now separated from the involvement of God.

God doesn't micromanage His creation...He made it with the ability to function autonomously.

Sin enters the picture.

So now we have two corrupted creations still with the ability to make babies...Sinful babies...babies infected by the curse of sin.

Does God make sinful babies?

No

We do.

If God was responsible for making babies, that means His power would be at the mercy of every act of fornication, adultery, or rape.

Therefore, the argument that,"I was born gay, or trans", I'm like ,"Ok, I was born a sinner too."

When they say,"Well God made me this way and God doesn't make mistakes" I say,"God didn't make you....Your parents did...parents under the curse of sin that have now transmitted the curse to you."

"Why did God create all the starving kids in Africa?????"

He didn't...Their parents did and they did it using the process He gave us to do so.

"My baby was born with all these illnesses and God doesn't make mistakes so that must mean that it's His will!"

Nope, it's a result of the fall, and that illness isn't Gods will...He didn't create them like that and He didn't give them that.

So what is the answer?

The answer is that we blame God for a lot of things that isn't His fault. God didn't make you a certain way just so He could heal you or deliver you from the way that He made you. That's crazy talk.

The blind man healed by Jesus....The disciples asked,"Who sinned? Him or his parents?"

Jesus responded,"Neither, but this was that the works of God may be made manifest."

Notice that He did not say that the blindness was a work of God...

Anyway I'm half asleep...Sorry for the ramble.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Ok here goes some sacred cows.

Help me Jeebus...

God set into motion His entire creation and He commanded Adam and Eve to "Be fruitful and multiply."

So He gave two perfect beings the ability to self replicate and said,"I made you, now you scamper off and make more of yourselves."

Meaning that the process of replication was now separated from the involvement of God.

God doesn't micromanage His creation...He made it with the ability to function autonomously.

Sin enters the picture.

So now we have two corrupted creations still with the ability to make babies...Sinful babies...babies infected by the curse of sin.

Does God make sinful babies?

No

We do.

If God was responsible for making babies, that means His power would be at the mercy of every act of fornication, adultery, or rape.

Therefore, the argument that,"I was born gay, or trans", I'm like ,"Ok, I was born a sinner too."

When they say,"Well God made me this way and God doesn't make mistakes" I say,"God didn't make you....Your parents did...parents under the curse of sin that have now transmitted the curse to you."

"Why did God create all the starving kids in Africa?????"

He didn't...Their parents did and they did it using the process He gave us to do so.

"My baby was born with all these illnesses and God doesn't make mistakes so that must mean that it's His will!"

Nope, it's a result of the fall, and that illness isn't Gods will...He didn't create them like that and He didn't give them that.

So what is the answer?

The answer is that we blame God for a lot of things that isn't His fault. God didn't make you a certain way just so He could heal you or deliver you from the way that He made you. That's crazy talk.

The blind man healed by Jesus....The disciples asked,"Who sinned? Him or his parents?"

Jesus responded,"Neither, but this was that the works of God may be made manifest."

Notice that He did not say that the blindness was a work of God...

Anyway I'm half asleep...Sorry for the ramble.

Some one tells me they're born gay, I do not believe it since no one is born gay... they're usually victims of gay child abuse.... but I said YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN!

[madras]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Some one tells me they're born gay, I do not believe it since no one is born gay... they're usually victims of gay child abuse.... but I said YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN!

Do you agree with the premise that babies are sinful because of the parents (nurture) and not because of Adam's transgression (nature)?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by madras

Do you agree with the premise that babies are sinful because of the parents (nurture) and not because of Adam's transgression (nature)?

I believe infants are born with the force of sin in them by Adam's ingestion of the fruit of the knowledge of good and devil. And when they come to the age of accountability... able to decide... they will sin.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I believe infants are born with the force of sin in them by Adam's ingestion of the fruit of the knowledge of good and devil. And when they come to the age of accountability... able to decide... they will sin.

I believe it is more that when man is left to his own carnal desires and without God, you have the recipe for disaster.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Emma her are your relatives?

Are they backslid?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Emma her are your relatives?

Are they backslid?

They must be on Rumspringa.

[Emma Bontrager]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Emma her are your relatives?

Are they backslid?

Yes, they are backslid, the whole lot of them.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I believe it is more that when man is left to his own carnal desires and without God, you have the recipe for disaster.

I think it's all the same thing. Otherwise, someone would succeed without sinning.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I think it's all the same thing. Otherwise, someone would succeed without sinning.

Success is only through the blood.

Being nicer than Jesus, and keeping the law blamelessly wasn't salvation.

It was accepting the One who was all and everything which was written in the book front and back. Cain brought sacrifices of his finest fruits of his labor. Yet were rejected. Because He didn't know Him. Everyone would say, these people actually held court with God? Sin God once winked at, and back in those days it was pretty rough. But now He requires all to KNOW Him.