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10-03-2017, 12:22 PM
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Re: Kneel, or you're racist!
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Originally Posted by Aquila
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Hahaha ... this was hilarious.
First, the officer needs more training, both in traffic law and engaging with the public. She needed to be more knowledgeable and assertive, but instead let this guy walk all over her.
Second, this guy is an idiot. He doesn't have a clue what the fifth amendment says. He tries claiming what he believes it is, but what he claims is not what the fifth amendment says. As his final statement shows, he was recording this to try to make himself look smart on social media -- "This is how you get out of it." Unfortunately for him, he comes across just as ignorant as the officer.
He was completely wrong on the fifth amendment. His claim that police cannot speed unless during an emergency is false. He was wrong about not having to give his name out.
He gets his video and the praise of other morons like him.
Again, the officer needs to spend more time in training. She acted like a Rookie.
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10-03-2017, 12:34 PM
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Re: Kneel, or you're racist!
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Oh good grief. What you're saying in all your rants here is that citizens should be free to confront, resist, make sudden and unannounced moves, refuse to comply and do all this without any fear. Meanwhile, you expect the police to be perfect and never enforce the law, they are to not wear vests for protection from the scumbags who wouldn't bat an eye putting a bullet in their chest, they are not to resort to any kind of force ... even with cause, even if someone reaches down on the floor of their car or under the car seat or if a perp makes any sudden movement.
I wish you would join the force and employ the kind of standards you demand of cops. We'll see how long before your end of watch.
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None of that is what I'm saying.
First, I'm saying that we live in a country where the war on drugs has created a literal "war" in which the police have had to basically become a standing military poised to brutally enforce laws against a problem that should be handled as a national health issue, not a criminal issue unless a crime is committed in the process. Decriminalization and active advancement in healthcare and treatment for drug addiction is desperately needed. In addition, citizens need a wider range of accessible mental health services. The war on drugs is an abysmal failure that continues to be an excuse for militarizing the police and attack our civil liberties. Let's look at decriminalization and start addressing this as public health crisis instead of a criminal issue. Kids are being locked up and hardened into career criminals in prison over a weed. Prohibition doesn't work.
Second, law enforcement officers should have more psychological screening and evaluations. When dealing with training, many nations put as much focus on de-escalation techniques as they do the use of lethal force. We could invest more training in de-escalation, negotiation, and expand more deeply into actual community service.
Third, it isn't illegal to reach down in your car or to make what one might "interpret" as a sudden move. Not all cops are so cowardly that they start firing into a vehicle because someone reaches for a wallet or registration. But a few have. If they are too scared to do their job in a manner that doesn't put the public at risk, maybe they should pick a new career field.
I'm not against body armor. Nor am I absolutely against having the necessary equipment to neutralize a heavily armed gunman. What I'm concerned with is the "militant mindset" that too many cops have. This mindset often causes the bad apples to act as though they are "Dirty Harry" wanna-be's. These bad apples tend to violate our rights as citizens. It happens all the time.
TONE DOWN THE TRAINING. They're cops, not soldiers.
Their job is to protect and serve.
Not to enforce and punish.
One should only fear for their life if they are doing something illegal. Not as the result of being stopped by police after stopping at McDonald's.
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10-03-2017, 12:45 PM
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Re: Kneel, or you're racist!
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Speaking of abuse. This lawyer needs to lose his license. Leaving the scene. Obstruction. Speeding. Yet this guy tries claiming he's "immune" and then has the audacity to leave the scene again.
This guy needed to sit in jail for a few hours and find out he's not above the law. Then the bar needs to revoke his license.
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10-03-2017, 12:47 PM
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Re: Kneel, or you're racist!
Okay, Aquila. Let us know when you get hired as a Police officer and start putting some of your claims into action.
I doubt it would be long until they announce your end of watch.
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10-03-2017, 12:51 PM
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Re: Kneel, or you're racist!
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Okay, Aquila. Let us know when you get hired as a Police officer and start putting some of your claims into action.
I doubt it would be long until they announce your end of watch.
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My glory days are over. I have no interest in any job that would require me carrying a gun.
Not all cops are bad. The majority are good cops. There are even cops taking a knee for crying out loud. But some work has to be done to clean up some departments, bro.
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10-03-2017, 01:12 PM
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Re: Kneel, or you're racist!
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Jurors can only rule in accordance to the "evidence" given and the testimonies of officers, many of which have no problem lying like the devil himself on the stand.
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Again, false claims with no proof to back them up. Who was lying in the "hands up! Don't shoot!" hysteria? What you are saying is that black jurors are just too stupid to know that they are being lied to in court. Amazing.
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10-03-2017, 01:54 PM
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Re: Kneel, or you're racist!
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Again, false claims with no proof to back them up. Who was lying in the "hands up! Don't shoot!" hysteria? What you are saying is that black jurors are just too stupid to know that they are being lied to in court. Amazing.
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Oh, you're right. Cops have never lied on the stand.
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10-03-2017, 03:11 PM
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Re: Kneel, or you're racist!
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Oh, you're right. Cops have never lied on the stand. 
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In the recent trials of cops, much more than oral testimony was considered and presented. The BLACK jurors got to see beyond the hysteria of leftists like yourself and based their decision on logic. But just tools.
You are the guy who scoffed at white Republican South Carolinians electing a black man as their Senator and a woman of color as their governor. You gave no credit to these whites because they are the southerners you hate. You insulted Tim Scott by referring to him as a "tool" that "white southerners recognize".
In 2012, every State of the old Confederacy was getting ready to vote for Herman Cain as the GOP nominee. Then your leftist machine railroaded him with false charges of womanizing. Couldn't let one of the slaves stray off of the leftist mental plantation, could you? He needed to be brought back into line. I guess those white GOP voters in 13 southern States just viewed Cain as a tool who helps in the suppression of his own people, right?
Comon, bro. Open your mouth and stick your foot in it...AGAIN. Reveal more of the pathetic hatred you have for southerners, hatred that runs so deep it prevents you from rejoicing or even acknowledging the color-blind attitude that now pervades southern culture. Something you should rejoice over you actually make fun of. This is how sick and poisoned you are by your godless ,anti-American, race-baiting ideology. Now you insult cops who happen to be of European descent if they kill a black man in the line of duty. You insult black jurors for justly acquitting them.
Why don't you do us all a favor and take your bigotry someplace else. You are not welcome here.
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10-03-2017, 04:40 PM
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Re: Kneel, or you're racist!
Notice - no studies showing bias have been linked on this discussion.
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No comments made regarding the study I posted that showed no bias.
Some would rather believe their own narrative without considering whether it is true.
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10-03-2017, 05:05 PM
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Re: Kneel, or you're racist!
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Notice - no studies showing bias have been linked on this discussion.
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No comments made regarding the study I posted that showed no bias.
Some would rather believe their own narrative without considering whether it is true.
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The leftist mind does not deal in facts and figures, only narratives and agendas.
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