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01-06-2018, 10:09 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: Water baptism is not vital for salvation?
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Risking someone's life for something not "salvific" when it could be done later, is a little offkey to me. (exggaerating - it's huge!) lol
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IDK. I recall sitting in an A of G some 9 1/2 years ago. The teaching pastor encouraged people to get baptized. He stressed that there were so many benefits to baptism. Didn’t seem that he could really explain the benefits. Lol.
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01-06-2018, 10:30 PM
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Re: Water baptism is not vital for salvation?
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IDK. I recall sitting in an A of G some 9 1/2 years ago. The teaching pastor encouraged people to get baptized. He stressed that there were so many benefits to baptism. Didn’t seem that he could really explain the benefits. Lol.
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I can. SALVATION! 
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01-06-2018, 10:55 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: Water baptism is not vital for salvation?
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I can. SALVATION!
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Forgiveness of sins. Circumcision of the heart. Identifying with His burial and resurrection.
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01-06-2018, 11:33 PM
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Re: Water baptism is not vital for salvation?
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Forgiveness of sins. Circumcision of the heart. Identifying with His burial and resurrection.
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Baptism into his death!
.. so that we're dead and therefore freed from sin. This means sin shall not have dominion over us any more. And it's what Peter said about baptism in 1 Peter 3 through 4, where we put on the mind of Christ and realize that if we died with Him we need not live to sin any more.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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01-11-2018, 12:42 PM
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J.esus i.s t.he o.ne God (463)
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Re: Water baptism is not vital for salvation?
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Baptism into his death!
.. so that we're dead and therefore freed from sin. This means sin shall not have dominion over us any more. And it's what Peter said about baptism in 1 Peter 3 through 4, where we put on the mind of Christ and realize that if we died with Him we need not live to sin any more. |
Exactly. I mean, Peter couldn't get much clearer than this:
1 Peter 3:20-21
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: I guess ol' Petey was just mistaken.
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Sometimes hidden dangers spring on us suddenly. Those are out of our control. But when one can see the danger, and then refuses to arrest , all in the name of "God is in control", they are forfeiting God given, preventive opportunities.
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01-06-2018, 10:56 PM
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Location: Phoenix, AZ.: Baptized in the NAME of the Lord Jesus in 1982.
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Re: Water baptism is not vital for salvation?
His NAME is Jesus!
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IDK. I recall sitting in an A of G some 9 1/2 years ago. The teaching pastor encouraged people to get baptized. He
stressed that there were so many benefits to baptism. Didn’t seem that he could really explain the benefits. Lol.
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Look no further than the "Great Commission"
"Go ye, therefore, and teach all nations, BAPTIZING them..."
"He that believes and IS BAPTIZED..."
And there is, of course, this other great benefit: the REMISSION of sins!
Some folks, even pastors now, refuse to read the scriptures.
Brother Villa
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