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01-06-2018, 09:04 PM
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Water baptism is not vital for salvation?
Baptism is so vital that the jailer, who was willing to kill himself due to the prisoners like Paul and Silas being out of the prison, was willing the LEAVE that prison and risk his neck to get baptized.
Now, how in the world is that making baptismal unnecessary for the actual salvation if this guy who wanted to kill himself rather than be caught letting prisoners out actually goes out WITH THEM, further risking his neck, to get baptized? He would have been baptized later when it was safer!!!
Those who think water baptism is not absolutely vital cannot answer that!
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01-06-2018, 09:27 PM
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Re: Water baptism is not vital for salvation?
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Baptism is so vital that the jailer, who was willing to kill himself due to the prisoners like Paul and Silas being out of the prison, was willing the LEAVE that prison and risk his neck to get baptized.
Now, how in the world is that making baptismal unnecessary for the actual salvation if this guy who wanted to kill himself rather than be caught letting prisoners out actually goes out WITH THEM, further risking his neck, to get baptized? He would have been baptized later when it was safer!!!
Those who think water baptism is not absolutely vital cannot answer that!
(Mic drop)
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Yes, sir!!!
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01-06-2018, 10:04 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: Water baptism is not vital for salvation?
It’s essential.
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01-06-2018, 10:05 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: Water baptism is not vital for salvation?
How did that go? It’s essential but not salvific?
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01-06-2018, 10:06 PM
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Re: Water baptism is not vital for salvation?
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How did that go? It’s essential but not salvific?
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Risking someone's life for something not "salvific" when it could be done later, is a little offkey to me. (exggaerating - it's huge!) lol
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01-06-2018, 10:09 PM
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Re: Water baptism is not vital for salvation?
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Risking someone's life for something not "salvific" when it could be done later, is a little offkey to me. (exggaerating - it's huge!) lol
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IDK. I recall sitting in an A of G some 9 1/2 years ago. The teaching pastor encouraged people to get baptized. He stressed that there were so many benefits to baptism. Didn’t seem that he could really explain the benefits. Lol.
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01-06-2018, 10:30 PM
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Re: Water baptism is not vital for salvation?
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IDK. I recall sitting in an A of G some 9 1/2 years ago. The teaching pastor encouraged people to get baptized. He stressed that there were so many benefits to baptism. Didn’t seem that he could really explain the benefits. Lol.
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I can. SALVATION! 
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01-06-2018, 10:55 PM
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Re: Water baptism is not vital for salvation?
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I can. SALVATION!
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Forgiveness of sins. Circumcision of the heart. Identifying with His burial and resurrection.
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01-06-2018, 10:56 PM
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Location: Phoenix, AZ.: Baptized in the NAME of the Lord Jesus in 1982.
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Re: Water baptism is not vital for salvation?
His NAME is Jesus!
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IDK. I recall sitting in an A of G some 9 1/2 years ago. The teaching pastor encouraged people to get baptized. He
stressed that there were so many benefits to baptism. Didn’t seem that he could really explain the benefits. Lol.
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Look no further than the "Great Commission"
"Go ye, therefore, and teach all nations, BAPTIZING them..."
"He that believes and IS BAPTIZED..."
And there is, of course, this other great benefit: the REMISSION of sins!
Some folks, even pastors now, refuse to read the scriptures.
Brother Villa
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01-06-2018, 11:33 PM
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Re: Water baptism is not vital for salvation?
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Forgiveness of sins. Circumcision of the heart. Identifying with His burial and resurrection.
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Baptism into his death!
.. so that we're dead and therefore freed from sin. This means sin shall not have dominion over us any more. And it's what Peter said about baptism in 1 Peter 3 through 4, where we put on the mind of Christ and realize that if we died with Him we need not live to sin any more.
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