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12-12-2007, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Yeah. Steadfast had recieved assurances from one of the coordinators that there wasn't going to be any rival org set up.
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I don't think that was exactly what Steadfast said.
You better go back and re-read.
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12-12-2007, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
I don't think that was exactly what Steadfast said.
You better go back and re-read.
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You're right. And we should do this together; but first remember- Steadfast himself is not the source of the information. Steadfast is merely reporting what he was told. I take no issue with Steadfast's perspective. I am questioning the motive behind what he was told.
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Originally Posted by Steadfast
I just preached a very unique conference last week with two great Men of God. On one hand I had one of the Assistant General Superintendants and on the other hand I had one of the Coordinators of the Tulsa meeting.
For all the talk about 'recruiting' and 'stealing members' and 'unethical' that abounds I have to tell you that this isn't the spirit of the coordinators at all! They are kind gentlemen that are simply providing a grass roots meeting to discuss what steps to take to maintain an Apostolic atmosphere without the diminishing of Apostolic distinctives.
I spent several days with them and - AMAZINGLY - not one time did they ask me to come to the meeting (I'm personal friends with most of the names on the mail out and have never been asked or recruited to come) or to drag others with me if I should decide to go.
We had several candid conversations about recent events and I asked the coordinator point blank if the meeting was going to be a 'preaching' type meeting, a bloodbath or what... only to be told that what they want to do is NOTHING that would require anybody to leave the UPC. They simply want to talk options, hear suggestions and reiterate our goals as Apostolics.
I know this will seriously upset some people to know that it will neither be a...- Gripe session
- UPC bashing meeting
- Flashback to the vicious splits of days gone by or
- A 'let's march out and make a statement' type meeting.
It's a meeting to gather suggestions and find a way to network men together who have begun to lose faith in the direction the Apostolic movement as a whole is going.
And, for what it's worth, I've talked to many who are involved or going to this meeting and have yet to hear any viciousness in their voices. Just a little sadness for the most part.
Thus, what most have surmised, heard gossiped about or interjected their own fabrications about... simply isn't true.
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I've shrunk his font size and added underlines to what I understood to be pertinent. The bolded words are from the original.
Will membership in this organization require men to leave the UPC? Why the organization of a competing Bible Quizzing program, of all things, if they are not interested in a wholly different org?
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12-13-2007, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pelathais
I've shrunk his font size and added underlines to what I understood to be pertinent. The bolded words are from the original.
Will membership in this organization require men to leave the UPC? Why the organization of a competing Bible Quizzing program, of all things, if they are not interested in a wholly different org?
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The answer to the first question is NO! A person will NOT have to leave the UPC to be a part of the new fellowship.
The answer to the second question is that a person MUST be UPC to participate in UPC Bible Quizzing. Many ARE leaving, and yet want access to a very worthwhile endeavor. Thus, the creation of a non-UPC Bible Quizzing program does NOT mean they are requiring people to leave the UPC.
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12-13-2007, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher
The answer to the first question is NO! A person will NOT have to leave the UPC to be a part of the new fellowship.
The answer to the second question is that a person MUST be UPC to participate in UPC Bible Quizzing. Many ARE leaving, and yet want access to a very worthwhile endeavor. Thus, the creation of a non-UPC Bible Quizzing program does NOT mean they are requiring people to leave the UPC.
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KP I just can't see this working...how can two walk together unless they be one??
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12-13-2007, 02:43 PM
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KP I just can't see this working...how can two walk together unless they be one??
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Brother RiggenS to the mic please 
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12-13-2007, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by revrandy
KP I just can't see this working...how can two walk together unless they be one??
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The scripture, as you know, doesn't say they have to "be one" to walk together -- they just have to agree.
By the way, I'm not their advocate. In fact, I doubt I'm going to join. I'm just trying to explain it as I see it.
Why would they have to belong to the same fellowship to participate in Bible Quizzing? I can't see why that would be an issue.
Maybe I'm missing the point of your question.
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any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."
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12-13-2007, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher
The scripture, as you know, doesn't say they have to "be one" to walk together -- they just have to agree.
By the way, I'm not their advocate. In fact, I doubt I'm going to join. I'm just trying to explain it as I see it.
Why would they have to belong to the same fellowship to participate in Bible Quizzing? I can't see why that would be an issue.
Maybe I'm missing the point of your question.
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KP, 2 ?'s...
1. When you were under 30 were you a liberal?
2. Did you not "turn in your card"? 
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12-13-2007, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Theophil
KP, 2 ?'s...
1. When you were under 30 were you a liberal?
2. Did you not "turn in your card"? |
1. There was a point at which I was liberal, and it was definitely when I was "under 30."
2. Yes, I did.
3. What is your point?
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"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and
any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."
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12-13-2007, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher
The scripture, as you know, doesn't say they have to "be one" to walk together -- they just have to agree.
By the way, I'm not their advocate. In fact, I doubt I'm going to join. I'm just trying to explain it as I see it.
Why would they have to belong to the same fellowship to participate in Bible Quizzing? I can't see why that would be an issue.
Maybe I'm missing the point of your question.
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So you are just staying independent of any org???
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12-13-2007, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by revrandy
So you are just staying independent of any org???
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That's my plan. However, I have a system of "accountability" in place, so I don't really consider myself "independent."
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"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and
any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."
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