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Old 03-25-2008, 09:17 AM
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Don't you trust God to protect you and your family?
Sure. Does that mean I don't work to feed and clothe them because I trust God?

No.

Neither did the Hebrew children. Do you believe that as much as they trusted God to protect them, they still had to fight???
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Who should one believe....David K. Bernard...a man full of the Holy Ghost who has been water baptized in Jesus name and knows the Oneness of God? Or you?
I think that throwing his credibility down the toilet because he doesn't hold the same beliefs as you is childish, Chris.

Holy Ghost filled men aren't infallible. Don't equate them with God.
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Typology. Like little foxes.
Only according to you. I've heard other Holy Ghost filled men say otherwise.

Who should I believe...them, being preachers and pastors, or you?
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But the question is...was Obama's pastor making some valid points regarding America's embrace of warfare and the slaughter of innocents...especially among professed Christians?
Chris, his comments go far beyond that and you know it.
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Have you read any of Bernard's work on the subject? Do you know the Articles of Faith of the UPCI? Did you know Pentecostal churches began issuing minister's licenses on the grounds of providing grounds for consciencious objector status? There is quite a bit of this in our foundational history. Only since the advent of the right wing dominionists have we seen a departure from the classical doctrine of Scripture on the matter.
Chris, the UPCI doesn't have the 'arrival of all truth' that you appear to be claiming. Those books were written by men. Men are infallible.
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I've had those "gut feelings" while preaching and spoke directly into a situation I knew nothing about. Sister...we walk by faith.
Chris, one man's gut feeling is another man's gas.

Don't equate your 'gut feelings' while preaching to making 'gut feelings' comments on this forum about 'facts' that might not really be so.
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In a presentation sponsored by the Chalcedon (a leading Reformed Theonomist think tank), Rushdoony advocated denying tax exempt status to groups recognized as cults such as the JW’s on the grounds that they do not hold to any traditional Christian creed.

Would not Rushdoony’s position advocate the same for Oneness Pentecostal churches?



Was he baptized in the name of Jesus and filled with the Holy Ghost?

Again it comes down to a non-Apostolic Reformed Trinitarian worldview vs. classical Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal worldview.

Bahnsen was indeed led by great intellect.
But Bro. Bernard is led of the Holy Ghost.

I'll go with Bro. Bernard. God has chosen the foolish things to confound the wise.
We have a difference in presuppositions that can only be decided on one way.

The big difference is that I was once where you are....interpret as you will.
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Bro. Bernard is a Holy Ghost filled man of God. Bro. Bernard is also recognized as the leading apologist of the United Pentecostal Church Internationa, the largest oneness body on the planet. The ministerial reading list extensively references his works.

You aren't even Apostolic. You can "know" what some have said about us...but one can't know the depth of what it truly means to be Apostolic unless they are one.

Fundamentally what we have here is a collision between two worldviews...your Reformed Presbyterianism and Apostolic Pentecostalism. It's like Islam colliding with Christianity. The two are not compatible.

I'd also like to call into remembrance history....Christian history is ripe with examples of how Trinitarian dominionists repeatedly seized or attempted to seize power for the sole purpose of propagating the kingdom of their three headed god...even if it had to be done by firelight produced by the burning bodies of one God Apostolics.

I reject your dominionism as an outright threat to the existance of the Church of the Living God. You come against this with Reformed Tradition...but I come against that tradition in the name of the LORD. And his name is....

JESUS
Chris, I don't think you know who Dave is. His knowledge makes you look clueless. Seriously.
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theres an old lwt song the wind is blowing again, so appropriate at this stage, now some body is proposing turning this into another pacifist versus sefl defense debate, enough, lol,dt

It's just another 'gut feeling' coming out......LOL!
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