Sure He saves them and then they are delievered from being homosexual.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
Sure He saves them and then they are delievered from being homosexual.
And what if He doesn't deliver them? Is that somehow their fault? Did they do something wrong? Not fast enough, not pray enough, not plead enough? Didn't feel guilty enough?
What if He doesn't? Does that mean they're never welcome in the church? Or forever have to hide who they are, what they struggle with? Does it mean they live with skeletons in the closet for the rest of their lives?
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You become free from who you have become, by becoming who you were meant to be. ~Mark from another forum I post on
God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
And what if He doesn't deliver them? Is that somehow their fault? Did they do something wrong? Not fast enough, not pray enough, not plead enough? Didn't feel guilty enough?
What if He doesn't? Does that mean they're never welcome in the church? Or forever have to hide who they are, what they struggle with? Does it mean they live with skeletons in the closet for the rest of their lives?
You obviously haven't heard, there are limits on God's grace. Hmmm no that doesn't sound right. Perhaps there are limits on some church's understanding of God's grace.
Well then surely there are some sins which God cannot deal with. Hmmm that doesn't sound right either. Perhaps there are some sins that certain church members can't love through in spite of their claims of knowing what agape means.
Maybe they have forgotten the message of Jesus:
I love you, and there's nothing you can do about it!
You obviously haven't heard, there are limits on God's grace. Hmmm no that doesn't sound right. Perhaps there are limits on some church's understanding of God's grace.
Well then surely there are some sins which God cannot deal with. Hmmm that doesn't sound right either. Perhaps there are some sins that certain church members can't love through in spite of their claims of knowing what agape means.
Maybe they have forgotten the message of Jesus:
I love you, and there's nothing you can do about it!
Where is all this coming from? Have I missed posts somewhere? Who is it that is saying God is not able to deliver? Who is it that is saying Jesus did not die for all? The church is not responsible for the sin of a homosexual and more than they are responsible for a muderer or a thief's sin.
If we confess our sin he is faithful in forgiveness. All have sinned.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
And what if He doesn't deliver them? Is that somehow their fault? Did they do something wrong? Not fast enough, not pray enough, not plead enough? Didn't feel guilty enough?
What if He doesn't? Does that mean they're never welcome in the church? Or forever have to hide who they are, what they struggle with? Does it mean they live with skeletons in the closet for the rest of their lives?
The answers here are the same as any other sin. Why try to accuse God?
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
The answers here are the same as any other sin. Why try to accuse God?
I'm not so much accusing God as asking questions out loud that I've pondered. I can't be so 100% certain of things that others find so easy to be 100% certain about. My experiences don't allow for that. I really have no doubts that God will work everything out, for everyone, exactly how He wants it worked out. But I don't really think that the church (you know, that entity that can think for itself now...lol) knows what that really is.
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You become free from who you have become, by becoming who you were meant to be. ~Mark from another forum I post on
God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
And what if He doesn't deliver them? Is that somehow their fault? Did they do something wrong? Not fast enough, not pray enough, not plead enough? Didn't feel guilty enough?
What if He doesn't? Does that mean they're never welcome in the church? Or forever have to hide who they are, what they struggle with? Does it mean they live with skeletons in the closet for the rest of their lives?
Well, many will convince themselves they have been "delivered", marry the opposite sex, keep trying to live the straight life for a while, have children, then give up and divorce.
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