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Old 05-22-2008, 09:16 PM
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Re: Is the UPC a Den of Incest?

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you obviously have never lived through this. I am sure there are some fathers who are held accountible through the system. I can give you a total different story and many others I know... I know countless single mothers that have to fight for every dime they get and most of their ex's money is hid through/with girlfriends or new wives.

My ex husband spent 1 year in work release center for non child support... our county is considered one of the toughest counties in this State on Child Support... I have proof of every support payment ever paid... less than $4K of child support on three kids over the last six years. The County let him live in a work release facility and pay me only $20 a week while he faithfully supported and put a roof over his girlfriend.. while she sat at home doing nothing.

You really have absolutely no clue... and no, he wasn't underground. The majority of the last six years, he has lived within a mile of me... except for the times he's been incarcerated.
Well I see the point in your case. I mean, the guy got off scot-free, what with only a year in the slammer!

Hey I've said that it doesn't turn out well for the women in every case. The trouble here is that all we have is a few anecdotes, not any data. But I would not call what your ex experienced a lack of favor by the court. He was obviously ordered to pay an onerous amount of child support. When he decided to forfeit compliance, he forfeited freedom because the enforcement was not taken lightly. The justice system did not turn its back on you in your time of need. You are in the unenviable position of experiencing the collision of your expectations with his irresponsibility.

My heart goes out to you. Keep the faith.
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:22 PM
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Re: Is the UPC a Den of Incest?

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Well I see the point in your case. I mean, the guy got off scot-free, what with only a year in the slammer!

Hey I've said that it doesn't turn out well for the women in every case. The trouble here is that all we have is a few anecdotes, not any data. But I would not call what your ex experienced a lack of favor by the court. He was obviously ordered to pay an onerous amount of child support. When he decided to forfeit compliance, he forfeited freedom because the enforcement was not taken lightly. The justice system did not turn its back on you in your time of need. You are in the unenviable position of experiencing the collision of your expectations with his irresponsibility.

My heart goes out to you. Keep the faith.
The "slammer" was the newly built work release center 1 block from my house... he had to be in by 8p.m. and was let out at 6am.. he spent part of that time at home... he basically just slept there... whew..tough system. He worked for my brother in law making the very least $800 a week bring home pay.. I saw the pay stubs.

$200 a week for three kids... 10,11 and 12 at the time.... not onerous... I received the majority of child support during the six months that he attempted to get back in church. My ex has spent most of his money on drugs over the last six years.. a habit that has put him behind bars (real prison) for possibly the rest of his life for car theft and robbing six banks.

I didn't sue him for child support, the govt did... they had to provide me with food help until I was able to get a job where I didn't have to depend on the goverment for help.

Now, sometime later... his new wife divorced him... she is long gone. I send him money every month... People think I am crazy... but there is absolutely no one who has anything to do with him. He might not have treated his family right, but I could never treat him the same way.
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$200 a week for three kids... 10,11 and 12 at the time.... not onerous... I received the majority of child support during the six months that he attempted to get back in church. My ex has spent most of his money on drugs over the last six years.. a habit that has put him behind bars (real prison) for possibly the rest of his life for car theft and robbing six banks..
Wow! I did not know...
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Wow! I did not know...
He did a year in a min security and got out June 07 for theft.. I tried to help him, he came to live at our house while he got on his feet. The addiction was just too great, he stole my sister's car and went on a two week crime spree.. it was sad. I try to visit once a month and I just cry buckets of tears because of what he is facing. It just tears me up. Sin will totally destroy a person's life
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He did a year in a min security and got out June 07 for theft.. I tried to help him, he came to live at our house while he got on his feet. The addiction was just too great, he stole my sister's car and went on a two week crime spree.. it was sad. I try to visit once a month and I just cry buckets of tears because of what he is facing. It just tears me up. Sin will totally destroy a person's life
I am so sorry Lisa. Sorry for him - but even more for you. God bless you!
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