Jobs people should not be allowed to do?

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by 1399

Christians shouldn't kill babies, unless the babies are strapped with explosives and the enemy is using them to bring death and destruction.

If your response was a veiled ref to abortion, then as a Christian, the only way I could rationalize abortion is to save the life of the mother.

If I have to choose betwwen my wife and some brat that I really don't know yet, I'll choose my wife every time.

You misunderstood my post.

I was asking about killing in a revolt or overthrow of a government.

If your response was "it depends on why the revolt is done" then I ask if a country killing a million babies a year is a good reason to overthrow... or is it just the high taxes on the tea and taxation without representation that qualifies...

OH, FYI there are many many Medical Dostors who say there is NEVER a time when you must choose between a mother and her unborn baby... there are only levels of risk.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Well I would not entertain the thought of doing anything too risky when it comes to life. If I was to take a life, I'd rather do so intentionally.

SO if it's too risky, the amalgamation goes-- not my wife.

I can not take part in any discussion that could possibly be construed where I would participate in or even advocate the violent overthrow of our country for any reason.

I am against abortion, but I don't believe it is necessary for the government to outlaw the practice.

Legislated morality is not morality, it's merely obeying the law.

But again, as a Christian, the Lord will lead you away from being an abortion doctor.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by 1399

Well I would not entertain the thought of doing anything too risky when it comes to life. If I was to take a life, I'd rather do so intentionally.

SO if it's too risky, the amalgamation goes-- not my wife.

I can not take part in any discussion that could possibly be construed where I would participate in or even advocate the violent overthrow of our country for any reason.

I am against abortion, but I don't believe it is necessary for the government to outlaw the practice.

Legislated morality is not morality, it's merely obeying the law.

But again, as a Christian, the Lord will lead you away from being an abortion doctor.

If the "brat" is full term do you still consider it an amalgamation? And if so, why is your wife's life of more value in God's eyes?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by cneasttx

If the "brat" is full term do you still consider it an amalgamation? And if so, why is your wife's life of more value in God's eyes?

I am to love my wife as Christ loves the Church. If I do this, then my children will do well to see an example of how God wants a family to be.

In pursuing this godliness, I make the stand to love my wife more than anything or anyone else, EXCEPT GOD.

That means, that if the unborn child, amalgamation of seed and egg-- that brat, was to threaten the life of my wife, by God my allegiance is with my wife first.

That near full-term child, of course I'd try to do what we could within reason, to save it's life. But my wife's life is more important and I believe I am in the will of God to think so.

I hope no one reading this thread has gone through this or will go through this. I hope I never go through this. But if I do, I choose my wife over that bundle of dna material.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by 1399

I am to love my wife as Christ loves the Church. If I do this, then my children will do well to see an example of how God wants a family to be.

In pursuing this godliness, I make the stand to love my wife more than anything or anyone else, EXCEPT GOD.

That means, that if the unborn child, amalgamation of seed and egg-- that brat, was to threaten the life of my wife, by God my allegiance is with my wife first.

That near full-term child, of course I'd try to do what we could within reason, to save it's life. But my wife's life is more important and I believe I am in the will of God to think so.

I hope no one reading this thread has gone through this or will go through this. I hope I never go through this. But if I do, I choose my wife over that bundle of dna material.

Does your wife agree with this? Nevermind, I read the rest of this thread. You are right, in that children join the marriage whereof husband and wife are one. That however does not mean they are of lesser value than a spouse. I have put 3 of my children in the ground, not by choice however. I hope you are never faced with that choice Mike.

[Jermyn Davidson]

But, in discussing abortion, the unborn child is still a child, and I use other terms to take the emotional sting out of the topic for me. It allows me to focus on the principle:

My wife is more important TO ME than our unborn child. I will love her more. This is my conviction and I believe it to be scripturally sound. As a family, I will provide for my whole family, but my wife will always be #1, not the children

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by cneasttx

If the "brat" is full term do you still consider it an amalgamation? And if so, why is your wife's life of more value in God's eyes?

Hey Cindy,
How are you this morning?

Once a full-term unborn child gravely threatens the life of my wife, it becomes an amalgamation of seed and egg. If it can be saved, so be it.

I am not sure if my wife's life is of more value than the full-term, unborn amalgamation-- in God's eyes.

In my eyes, my wife will be worth more than my children-- she always will be.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by 1399

Well I would not entertain the thought of doing anything too risky when it comes to life. If I was to take a life, I'd rather do so intentionally.

SO if it's too risky, the amalgamation goes-- not my wife.

I can not take part in any discussion that could possibly be construed where I would participate in or even advocate the violent overthrow of our country for any reason.

I am against abortion, but I don't believe it is necessary for the government to outlaw the practice.

Legislated morality is not morality, it's merely obeying the law.

But again, as a Christian, the Lord will lead you away from being an abortion doctor.

In regards to killing you said " in the context and only in the context of war can I really rationalize all of this."

I am asking about the American Revolutionary War and whether it was good rationalization for killing.

Just sorting out what folks deem to be a worthy cause... oil, tax on tea, taxation without representation, etc...

Abortion is sin, and the unborn should be given the same rights as other children.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Abortion is sin, and the unborn should be given the same rights as other children.

They do have the same rights as other children. In many circumstances, if a pregnant woman is murdered, the murderer is charged with 2 murders.

It's immoral, illegal and murder to kill a child that has been born.

It is NOT immoral, NOT illegal, and NOT murder to save my wife's life.

This is why abortion should remain a legal option. Unfortunately, too many people are immoral with their use of abortions-- God will judge the murderers.

The murderers are the people who casually terminate the life of a human.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

You misunderstood my post.

I was asking about killing in a revolt or overthrow of a government.

If your response was "it depends on why the revolt is done" then I ask if a country killing a million babies a year is a good reason to overthrow... or is it just the high taxes on the tea and taxation without representation that qualifies...

OH, FYI there are many many Medical Dostors who say there is NEVER a time when you must choose between a mother and her unborn baby... there are only levels of risk.

Why would overthrowing the government over abortion even be a consideration in the first place? The US government isn't forcing anyone to have abortions, like they do in China.