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Old 07-28-2008, 03:23 PM
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I'll say this much about the ignorant post Rico has made; it shows that he has a lack of respect for what POW's go through. No excuse for the behavior of McCain's adultery; however, that doesn't give Rico the right to lie, especially since McCain went through psychological torture. The respect I had for Rico is gone until he can be a man and apologize.
East, I don't wanna scrap witcha, but dude....you're dead wrong on his sentence structure. Disagree on the politics all you want, but don't include this in the discussion, you are incorrect. If you like, I can give the sentence to my wife and she can grade it as she does everyday....not only does she teach structure, she is a proofreader for manuscripts. She has done that for many, including Joy Haney...
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Old 07-28-2008, 03:31 PM
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East, I don't wanna scrap witcha, but dude....you're dead wrong on his sentence structure. Disagree on the politics all you want, but don't include this in the discussion, you are incorrect. If you like, I can give the sentence to my wife and she can grade it as she does everyday....not only does she teach structure, she is a proofreader for manuscripts. She has done that for many, including Joy Haney...
"He cheated on the woman who stuck it out with him when he was a POW."

Okay monkeyman, give this to your wife if you must, but it is pretty clear that Rico said McCain cheated when he was a POW.
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Old 07-28-2008, 03:50 PM
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"He cheated on the woman who stuck it out with him when he was a POW."

Okay monkeyman, give this to your wife if you must, but it is pretty clear that Rico said McCain cheated when he was a POW.
Bro. Eastman, I love you but Rico is right on this one.
You have concurrent prepositional phrases. The last two "with him" and "when he was a POW" modify the first one "who stuck it out". "When he was a POW" is serving as an adverb phrase telling when she stuck it out. If he desired it to be an adverb phrase modifying the verb "cheated", then his placement would have been incorrect. In that case he should have written "When he was a POW, he cheated on the woman who stuck it out with him".
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Old 07-28-2008, 03:58 PM
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Bro. Eastman, I love you but Rico is right on this one.
You have concurrent prepositional phrases. The last two "with him" and "when he was a POW" modify the first one "who stuck it out". "When he was a POW" is serving as an adverb phrase telling when she stuck it out. If he desired it to be an adverb phrase modifying the verb "cheated", then his placement would have been incorrect. In that case he should have written "When he was a POW, he cheated on the woman who stuck it out with him".
Brother, I can look at a sentence and tell if its structure is correct, but I can't explain the rules of sentence structure. One of my biggest problems is that I have a tendency to write run on sentences. I also have a tendency to use too many commas. Another problem I have is not knowing when it's best to start a new paragraph.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:00 PM
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Brother, I can look at a sentence and tell if its structure is correct, but I can't explain the rules of sentence structure. One of my biggest problems is that I have a tendency to write run on sentences. I also have a tendency to use too many commas. Another problem I have is not knowing when it's best to start a new paragraph.
This would have been a real funny post if you had written it all as one big run-on sentence




For some reason English and Grammar were always my favorite areas of study. I proofread things all the time.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:05 PM
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This would have been a real funny post if you had written it all as one big run-on sentence




For some reason English and Grammar were always my favorite areas of study. I proofread things all the time.
I thought about it, but decided against it.

Oddly enough, posting on these forums has helped me develop better writing skills. I particularly like reading Miss Brattified's posts. She uses excellent sentence structure and is very good at making a point without it being too wordy.
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Bro. Eastman, I love you but Rico is right on this one.
You have concurrent prepositional phrases. The last two "with him" and "when he was a POW" modify the first one "who stuck it out". "When he was a POW" is serving as an adverb phrase telling when she stuck it out. If he desired it to be an adverb phrase modifying the verb "cheated", then his placement would have been incorrect. In that case he should have written "When he was a POW, he cheated on the woman who stuck it out with him".
The problem with Rico's prepositional phrase; "when he was a POW", is incomplete which leads the reader to believe he cheated on his wife when he was a POW. How can McCain cheat on his wife "when" he was a POW? (unless of course he had homosexual tendancies towards his fellow soldiers) Rico might as well have said "McCain cheated on his wife "when" he was in prison". No matter how you slice what Rico said, there was a lack of clarity on the sentence itself. He could've said "He cheated on the woman who stuck it out with him 'after' he was a POW". I'm sorry, but this makes more sense in how the truth is conveyed than how Rico worded his sentence.

Again, I was content on letting the subject drop, but someone had to bring it up again for whatever reason. I do not typically care about the perfection of someone's grammar unless there is a possibility that someone could believe something that was not intended.
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Old 07-28-2008, 05:56 PM
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The problem with Rico's prepositional phrase; "when he was a POW", is incomplete which leads the reader to believe he cheated on his wife when he was a POW. How can McCain cheat on his wife "when" he was a POW? (unless of course he had homosexual tendancies towards his fellow soldiers) Rico might as well have said "McCain cheated on his wife "when" he was in prison". No matter how you slice what Rico said, there was a lack of clarity on the sentence itself. He could've said "He cheated on the woman who stuck it out with him 'after' he was a POW". I'm sorry, but this makes more sense in how the truth is conveyed than how Rico worded his sentence.

Again, I was content on letting the subject drop, but someone had to bring it up again for whatever reason. I do not typically care about the perfection of someone's grammar unless there is a possibility that someone could believe something that was not intended.
Bro Eastman, how would you word the sentence if you wanted to convey that McCain cheated on the woman who stuck with him during the difficult time period in which he was a POW?
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Bro Eastman, how would you word the sentence if you wanted to convey that McCain cheated on the woman who stuck with him during the difficult time period in which he was a POW?
Brother Stewart, are you serious? Unless I knew for certain that McCain had the capacity to actually cheat on his wife when he was a POW, I wouldn't have said what Rico said unless He had some way to cheat when he was a POW.

Rico's statement was worded correctly if McCain did indeed cheat on his wife; however, as was stated before, he didn't actually cheat on his wife when he was a POW. Not only that, Rico did not actually state a specific time frame, herein lies the unclarity of his post.
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Brother Stewart, are you serious? Unless I knew for certain that McCain had the capacity to actually cheat on his wife when he was a POW, I wouldn't have said what Rico said unless He had some way to cheat when he was a POW.

Rico's statement was worded correctly if McCain did indeed cheat on his wife; however, as was stated before, he didn't actually cheat on his wife when he was a POW. Not only that, Rico did not actually state a specific time frame, herein lies the unclarity of his post.
Bro Eastman, the way the sentence is worded, it is not saying that McCain cheated when he was a POW. It's saying that his wife stuck by him when he was a POW.
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