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08-13-2008, 10:02 AM
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Re: Color
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What conclusions dont have some flaws? But over all the fact that this author is NOT approaching the subject from a religious pro or con bias but is merely stating a pretty recognizable fact, one that has been stated here by NON zoologist obserevers, completely independent of the book ,that when people are sexually aroused their eyes cheeks and lifps take on a different cast or hue and become flushed, is one that simply cant be argued with as THEY DO! Cosmetics that duplicate that appearance DO send out subliminal messages, and of course that subliminal message being "I am sexually aroused right now...."
Of course we can pretend thats a bunch of nonsense, howeveer thee fact remains....it's NOT.
To inform people of that and the message in back of duplicating that sexually aroused appearance is not old fashioned, it is absolutely imperative.
Let me ask you when you see little eight year old girls in public painted up with red lips, flushed cheeks and all kinds of makep on the eyes to draw attention to them...does it bother YOU? I know it bothers many secular people who do NOT have a reservation about makeup. And on a mere surface consideration of WHY it would be the oft stated SECULAR realization that this is SEXUALLIZNG children, ergo, the WORLD recognizes that this practice is one that deals with SEXUALITY. Flawed conclusion or the logical one you decide.
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A conclusion that is based on a false premise is a false conclusion.
I have never seen anyone’s eye lashes turn darker or longer, eyelids turn blue or green or whatever color they put on their eyelids, when sexually aroused.
Many of the things you describe that takes place on a persons face when they are aroused is the same thing that happens when they run half a mile. There cheeks get flushed then too.
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08-13-2008, 10:11 AM
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Re: Color
The only scripture I can think of that was used for make-up with be Jezebel's painted face.
As to coloring hair and etc. I don't know of any scripture ever used???
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08-13-2008, 10:28 AM
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Re: Color
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A conclusion that is based on a false premise is a false conclusion.
I have never seen anyone’s eye lashes turn darker or longer, eyelids turn blue or green or whatever color they put on their eyelids, when sexually aroused.
Many of the things you describe that takes place on a persons face when they are aroused is the same thing that happens when they run half a mile. There cheeks get flushed then too.
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So then you DON'T see the purpose of women wearing makeup to make them attractive but rather to give them the appearance of being joggers.
Well if that helps you avoid the reality in back of the wearing of makeup in order to be attractive to the opposite sex, then I doubt anyone can disuade you.....
But maybe this can
http://www.eliteprobeautycourses.com/makeup_sexy.htm
Who was it, Art Garfunkle or Paul Simon who wrote ...
"Their is none so blind as he who WILL not see...."? Any way for THINKING people I believe this is something that DOES warrant some consideration.
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08-13-2008, 10:35 AM
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Re: Color
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So then you DON'T see the purpose of women wearing makeup to make them attractive but rather to give them the appearance of being joggers.
Well if that helps you avoid the reality in back of the wearing of makeup in order to be attractive to the opposite sex, then I doubt anyone can dissuade you.....
Who was it, Art Garfunkle or Paul Simon who wrote ...
"Their is none so blind as he who WILL not see...."? Any way for THINKING people I believe this is something that DOES warrant some consideration.
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Who won't see? Ask yourself why a persons face changes when they are aroused? Does this happen at other times other than arousal? If so to say that is the reason makeup is worn is nothing short of nonsense.
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08-13-2008, 10:48 AM
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Re: Color
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Who won't see? Ask yourself why a persons face changes when they are aroused? Does this happen at other times other than arousal? If so to say that is the reason makeup is worn is nothing short of nonsense.
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Again, there is none so blind as he who WILL not see. Fortunately for thinking people all we have to do is look to Madison Avenue and find out the PACKAGING of the ads for this stuff to realize first and foremost what you refuse to, it IS a sex issue! It is a product not sold in relationship to Tennis Shoes and sweat sox, but rather in relationship to sexuality.
But as I said , no amount of reality will cause you t see it for what it most plainly is because you do not WISH to.
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08-13-2008, 10:51 AM
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Re: Color
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Again, there is none so blind as he who WILL not see. Fortunately for thinking people all we have to do is look to Madison Avenue and find out the PACKAGING of the ads for this stuff to realize first and foremost what you refuse to, it IS a sex issue! It is a product not sold in relationship to Tennis Shoes and sweat sox, but rather in relationship to sexuality.
But as I said , no amount of reality will cause you t see it for what it most plainly is because you do not WISH to.
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More nonsense!! Ever see the Doritos adds that are a blatant appeal to sex? Cars? Even job search websites have appealed to it.
You want it to be about sex...so anyone that disagrees with your assessment is blind.
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08-13-2008, 11:11 AM
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Re: Color
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More nonsense!! Ever see the Doritos adds that are a blatant appeal to sex? Cars? Even job search websites have appealed to it.
You want it to be about sex...so anyone that disagrees with your assessment is blind.
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Lets see, the almost virtually universal packaging and stated INTENT in back of cosmetics being to make the wearer SEXIER is NONSENSE? You really DO believe that women wear makeup to look like they have just run a marathon????? Who's zoomin who??? And BTW What planet do YOU live on? Bring this discussion back to the reality of the planet EARTH. Cosmetics ARE marketed to make women SEXIER not to make them appear as having just competed in a triathalon.
Countless magazine articles are published EACH MONTH in various magazine with the latest cosmetics and how to apply them so you will appear SEXIER.
IT IS ABOUT SEX. NOT ATHLETICS as you would have us believe.
And then you make the most valid of points...SEX SELLS! It is the tool used as you say for selling everything from Cars to Doritos! Should Gods people emulate this approach in THEIR packaging of themselves? As sexual objects flushed and available RIGHT NOW!
Your real problem seems to be that it bothers you for anyone to point out the OBVIOUS so that each saint of God can consider it themselves and perhaps come to a different conclusion than the one you obviously want them to come to.
Information is NOT scary to those who really want to know the truth on a matter. I put my information out there and there is TONS more on this subject available right here on the internet INCLUDING merely reproducing the cosmetic company ads to show what the real motivation in back of the whole practice is.
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08-13-2008, 11:23 AM
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Re: Color
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Lets see, the almost virtually universal packaging and stated INTENT in back of cosmetics being to make the wearer SEXIER is NONSENSE? You really DO believe that women wear makeup to look like they have just run a marathon????? Who's zoomin who??? And BTW What planet do YOU live on? Bring this discussion back to the reality of the planet EARTH. Cosmetics ARE marketed to make women SEXIER not to make them appear as having just competed in a triathalon.
Countless magazine articles are published EACH MONTH in various magazine with the latest cosmetics and how to apply them so you will appear SEXIER.
IT IS ABOUT SEX. NOT ATHLETICS as you would have us believe.
And then you make the most valid of points...SEX SELLS! It is the tool used as you say for selling everything from Cars to Doritos! Should Gods people emulate this approach in THEIR packaging of themselves? As sexual objects flushed and available RIGHT NOW!
Your real problem seems to that it bothers you for anyone to point out the OBVIOUS so that each saint of God can consider it themselves and perhaps come to a different conclusion than the one you obviously want them to come to.
Information is NOT scary to those who really want to know the truth on a matter. I put my information out there and there is TONS more on this subject available right here on the internet INCLUDING merely reproducing the cosmetic company ads to show what the real motivation in back of the whole practice is.
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You continue to miss the point. I never said it was to make them LOOK athletic. I said the same LOOK that you are claiming they are trying to achieve takes place with excercise as well as sexual arousal.
Their motivation is to sell their product.
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08-13-2008, 12:29 PM
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Re: Color
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Originally Posted by TCSQ
Lets see, the almost virtually universal packaging and stated INTENT in back of cosmetics being to make the wearer SEXIER is NONSENSE? You really DO believe that women wear makeup to look like they have just run a marathon????? Who's zoomin who??? And BTW What planet do YOU live on? Bring this discussion back to the reality of the planet EARTH. Cosmetics ARE marketed to make women SEXIER not to make them appear as having just competed in a triathalon.
Countless magazine articles are published EACH MONTH in various magazine with the latest cosmetics and how to apply them so you will appear SEXIER.
IT IS ABOUT SEX. NOT ATHLETICS as you would have us believe.
And then you make the most valid of points...SEX SELLS! It is the tool used as you say for selling everything from Cars to Doritos! Should Gods people emulate this approach in THEIR packaging of themselves? As sexual objects flushed and available RIGHT NOW!
Your real problem seems to be that it bothers you for anyone to point out the OBVIOUS so that each saint of God can consider it themselves and perhaps come to a different conclusion than the one you obviously want them to come to.
Information is NOT scary to those who really want to know the truth on a matter. I put my information out there and there is TONS more on this subject available right here on the internet INCLUDING merely reproducing the cosmetic company ads to show what the real motivation in back of the whole practice is.
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Darlin' makeup isn't a miracle product!
Ugly is more than skin deep and putting on some foundation, gloss and blush doesn't turn everyone into a sex kitten!
Just as eating Doritoes doesn't turn you into some desirable lover!
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08-13-2008, 11:21 AM
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Re: Color
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Originally Posted by TCSQ
Again, there is none so blind as he who WILL not see. Fortunately for thinking people all we have to do is look to Madison Avenue and find out the PACKAGING of the ads for this stuff to realize first and foremost what you refuse to, it IS a sex issue! It is a product not sold in relationship to Tennis Shoes and sweat sox, but rather in relationship to sexuality.
But as I said , no amount of reality will cause you t see it for what it most plainly is because you do not WISH to.
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So, when I cover up the huge black circles that I have under my eyes (I hate allergies) it is a sexual thing?? I always thought it was a courtesy to those who have to look at me, and to avoid the questions about whether I have been punched in the eyes.
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