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Old 08-25-2008, 09:42 PM
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Re: ((((((((((((TULSA BOMBSHELL))))))))) "49 Elder

Concerning the list that has been posted, I know several of the men listed and have known them for years. I have sat under them in revivals, camp meetings and conferences. I am not a minister but I know these men to be God fearing men of honor and integrity. The Word says we are to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. If these men see or even suspect that something is going on in the UPCI, what right do we have to question them and their congregations if they want to leave the UPCI and start another organization? If they adhere to the doctrine of 1 God, repentance, baptism in Jesus name by immersion, the infilling of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tounges and living holy before God: aren't they then brothers of faith, no matter what they call themselves? Heaven is going to be a shock for a lot of people who think they or their organization will be the only ones there.

As far as someone saying that the UPCI will welcome make-up and jewelry on the platform...some already do. I left a UPCI church last year where the pastor's wife cuts her hair, wears make-up and jewelry, and sees nothing wrong with working in the church flower beds in shorts. The praise singers and musicians on the platform would fit in at any Las Vegas show. I took my family and left when they started allowing their youth leader to teach my son that how you were baptized didn't matter and standards were things you set for yourself and had Sunday School teachers, who didn't have the Holy Ghost, teaching children that the Holy Ghost wasn't necessary. There are only 3 women in the church that haven't cut their hair and only about 10 to 12 that don't wear the make-up. A board member's wife left him because of his drinking and abuse. When the woman went to her pastor, he told her to stay with her abusive husband. Why? The only reason I stayed as long as I did was because this is the church I grew up in. Where is the UPCI and why are they allowing their minister to preach and condone these actions. Complaints to sectional, district, or national headquarters go un-heeded with the remarks, "Well, its his church, he can run it as he sees fit." Funny, I was always taught the Church belongs to Jesus. I and my family now attend a UPCI church where the pastor preaches the doctrine and and the standards of Holiness and tells his congregation that if he changes the message then we have the right to leave.

I pray that the UPCI never changes the message I grew up hearing but if they do, I and my family will leave and go where ever we have to in order to be saved. Whether it's the WPF or the ALJC or an independant remains to be seen.
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