Ray Boltz????

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Amos

My dad believed the Bible had value.

He thought it was instructive as a general blueprint for morality and an interesting collection of myths regarding the human condition.

This is where I stand right now:

I believe the Bible to be written by Men, good men, who loved God, and wrote down their stories and experiences that occured during their quest for a relationship with God. I do believe that it can be inspiried, just as a sermon, a song, or a poem can be inspired. But I do not believe that all parts of it are inspired, nor do I believe it to be infallible.

I believe it to be largely influenced by the cultural, the times, and the gender of the writers.

But I do believe that it has a purpose. Not only a historical purpose. But it is the best written account we have of Jesus.

But I believe that it is the Spirit that is to lead us, guide us, teach us, comfort us, etc. (not the book).

I do believe that the book contains a lot of wisdom.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Michlow

This is where I stand right now:

I believe the Bible to be written by Men, good men, who loved God, and wrote down their stories and experiences that occured during their quest for a relationship with God. I do believe that it can be inspiried, just as a sermon, a song, or a poem can be inspired. But I do not believe that all parts of it are inspired, nor do I believe it to be infallible.

I believe it to be largely influenced by the cultural, the times, and the gender of the writers.

But I do believe that it has a purpose. Not only a historical purpose. But it is the best written account we have of Jesus.

But I believe that it is the Spirit that is to lead us, guide us, teach us, comfort us, etc. (not the book).

I do believe that the book contains a lot of wisdom.

This not what the bible says...

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

This not what the bible says...

Somewhat of a Catch-22....

One must already believe the Bible to be authoritative, before one can believe the Bible's CLAIM to be authoritative

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Michlow

Somewhat of a Catch-22....

One must already believe the Bible to be authoritative, before one can believe the Bible's CLAIM to be authoritative

I heard a preacher say one time, he doesn't preach sin from his perspective rather it is the bible that preaches sin.

...your comment indicates that you get the point.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Praxeas
With the exception of today? lol...well I don't have that kind of time to go through all your other posts.

As I said you use humor to me as a passive aggressive...and more specifically towards people here of other faiths. I suppose they get tired of it and just don't read your posts anymore...

And for that matter, Mr "I post everything in love" Alicea has the same passive aggressive behavior, though often his is less passive.

There are a lot of members and former members that just tune him out now...not because of doctrine but because of HOW he chooses to discuss it

Love ya Dan and Mich

What did Dan say?