Ready for a Gun ban?

1Corinth2v4 · #1 03-18-2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

Why would a Christian need a gun? I think it underscores a lack of faith. If you can trust God with your soul...you can trust him with your family's safety come what may.

Oh, spare me the drama! I own various pistols, rifles, and other goodies! The scriptures don't prohibit me to own them. Furthermore, I possessing any weapon doesn't demonstrate any lack of faith in God, as you state above!

If owning a weapon (knife,gun, etc.) underscores a lack of faith, then Apostle Peter had major issues while following Jesus. Furthermore, we read Peter always carried a sword while following Jesus, and Not once did Jesus command Peter to discard his sword. If Jesus would have requested Peter to discard his sword, Peter never would have drew his sword and cut off the high priest servant's ear! By this time in Jesus' ministry, Peter had well traveled thousand of miles with Jesus, while Peter carried a sword.

John 18:9-11

9That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none.

10Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.

11Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?

TJJJ · #2 03-18-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4

Oh, spare me the drama! I own various pistols, rifles, and other goodies! The scriptures don't prohibit me to own them. Furthermore, I possessing any weapon doesn't demonstrate any lack of faith in God, as you state above!

If owning a weapon (knife,gun, etc.) underscores a lack of faith, then Apostle Peter had major issues while following Jesus. Furthermore, we read Peter always carried a sword while following Jesus, and Not once did Jesus command Peter to discard his sword. If Jesus would have requested Peter to discard his sword, Peter never would have drew his sword and cut off the high priest servant's ear! By this time in Jesus' ministry, Peter had well traveled thousand of miles with Jesus, while Peter carried a sword.

John 18:9-11

9That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none.

10Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.

11Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?

You are wrong! The Bible says they had a sword, not a GLOCK!! Because it does not specify firearms then we must not be able to own one !!!!

Ha! Right!

That is the logic of some anyway!

Digging4Truth · #3 03-18-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila
Why would a Christian need a gun? I think it underscores a lack of faith. If you can trust God with your soul...you can trust him with your family's safety come what may.

It doesn't underscore a lack of faith...

If owning a gun is lack of faith then is hunting a lack of faith?
Then is owning a rod & reel a lack of faith?
Is owning a shovel, a hoe & a rake a lack of faith?

If a dog shows up and attacks my chickens... is my running out there with my pistol a lack of faith? That dog better get some faith in his little doggy god because he is about to bite the big one... and I say that in faith.

That whole line of thinking is nonsensical to the core and born out of a feeling that others peoples rights are ours to control.

Plus... don't forget the big one... they have the right of the law abiding citizen to do so (or was... it is going away fast) and, therefore, (pardon my grammar) it ain't nobody's bidness... nobody's... at all... none... ever...

MrsMcD · #4 03-18-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

It doesn't underscore a lack of faith...

If owning a gun is lack of faith then is hunting a lack of faith?
Then is owning a rod & reel a lack of faith?
Is owning a shovel, a hoe & a rake a lack of faith?

If a dog shows up and attacks my chickens... is my running out there with my pistol a lack of faith? That dog better get some faith in his little doggy god because he is about to bite the big one... and I say that in faith.

That whole line of thinking is nonsensical to the core and born out of a feeling that others peoples rights are ours to control.

Plus... don't forget the big one... they have the right of the law abiding citizen to do so (or was... it is going away fast) and, therefore, (pardon my grammar) it ain't nobody's bidness... nobody's... at all... none... ever...

DITTO - DITTO -DITTO!!!!

Pressing-On · #5 03-18-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

If a dog shows up and attacks my chickens... is my running out there with my pistol a lack of faith? That dog better get some faith in his little doggy god because he is about to bite the big one... and I say that in faith.

1Corinth2v4 · #6 03-18-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TJJJ

You are wrong! The Bible says they had a sword, not a GLOCK!! Because it does not specify firearms then we must not be able to own one !!!!

Ha! Right!

That is the logic of some anyway!

Everyday I'm surprised by various apostolic friends forum's posters.

TJJJ,

What if the bible reads they carried a sword and not a Glock? What does that prove? A sword was their only weapon of choice in that era. I'm sure the magistrate and Apostle Peter would utilize Glocks if they were in existence during their lifetime!

The fact is the magistrate utilized swords in that era:

Romans 13:4 (NIV)
For they are God's servants working for your good. But if you do what is wrong, you should be afraid, for it is not without reason that they bear the sword. Indeed, they are God's servants to administer punishment to anyone who does wrong.

If Jesus didn't mind Peter and the magistrate bearing swords (weapon of their time), Jesus wouldn't mind us utilizing pistols (weapon of our generation)!

FYI: I own a 40 Glock, Model 27!

TJJJ · #7 03-18-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4

Everyday I'm surprised by various apostolic friends forum's posters.

TJJJ,

What if the bible reads they carried a sword and not a Glock? What does that prove? A sword was their only weapon of choice in that era. I'm sure the magistrate and Apostle Peter would utilize Glocks if they were in existence during their lifetime!

The fact is the magistrate utilized swords in that era:

Romans 13:4 (NIV)
For they are God's servants working for your good. But if you do what is wrong, you should be afraid, for it is not without reason that they bear the sword. Indeed, they are God's servants to administer punishment to anyone who does wrong.

If Jesus didn't mind Peter and the magistrate bearing swords (weapon of their time), Jesus wouldn't mind us utilizing pistols (weapon of our generation)!

FYI: I own a 40 Glock, Model 27!

No, no! I must have came across wrong! I was laughingly using the approach that some use towards holiness in a rather feeble attempt to make a point.

Some say that because God does not specify things like cigs and pot and other sins that, obviously, because it was not there then it must be okay! I was trying to use the same logic but the other way thus the laughing face at the bottom! I am not against glocks.

Sorry for my comment being misunderstood!

I humbly apologize to all glock owners!!!! (Next time buy a Beretta)

ManOfWord · #8 03-18-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TJJJ

No, no! I must have came across wrong! I was laughingly using the approach that some use towards holiness in a rather feeble attempt to make a point.

Some say that because God does not specify things like cigs and pot and other sins that, obviously, because it was not there then it must be okay! I was trying to use the same logic but the other way thus the laughing face at the bottom! I am not against glocks.

Sorry for my comment being misunderstood!

I humbly apologize to all glock owners!!!! (Next time buy a Beretta)

If I was in Law Enforcement, I would have a Glock as my service weapon. I have fired them and they easy to use and quite accurate.

For my concealed carry I use a Keltec 9mm. It is a single stack mag and is the smallest 9mm made. Not as accurate as a Glock or even a Beretta, but it will get the job done within legal parameters!