Do you believe the innocent party in a situation

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

PO, you are just wrong. There ARE divorces in which one person is innocent and the other is guilty. And that's all there is to it. MANY people choose to sin all on their own, through no fault of anyone else around them, or their "environment." IF someone else contributed, especially knowingly, they should ask God to forgive them, but a failure, whether its the sin of lying or the sin of adultery does not indicate anyone else's guilt except for the person who made the choice.

I think that's the part of your posts I'm really objecting to. It seems like you're saying there can never be an innocent party, that if there's a problem, both parties must have contributed, and I really, vehemently disagree.

The presence of a fall doesn't necessarily point to someone pushing. IF a person pushes another over a ledge, especially on purpose--well, I agree--they have something to repent of. But otherwise, the person jumped on their own.

Abigail,
Again, I have focused on the passage speaking of "defrauding".

The scriptures I posted, which are not mere dialogue , support that premise very well. They all point to someone who has occasioned a weak person to fall into temptation and to fail. God is not happy with that.

I NEVER one time said that there is not an innocent party in some cases. As you think that I believe there is no innocent party, I am getting the impression you do not believe the scriptures say that a person can cause another to fall and fail.

The party that sinned must answer for his deed. The party that caused his weak brother/sister to fall and fail must also answer for his/her part. BOTH have sinned and are wrong.

If you believe that there are times we have an innocent party and that there are also times you have a person who causes a weak man/woman to fall and fail, then we are good and on the same page.

If not, then I suggest you follow my example and support what you are saying with the Word of God. I do much better with scripture than I do with pontificating. Are we having fun, yet? LOL!