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Old 10-06-2009, 11:45 AM
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Yes, may god shine his light upon him and give him wisdom for the hour we are living in. He has a great responsibility that i don't envy.
This would have been very nice and kind if you had not already painted him, for all readers - members and lurkers alike - in the most horrible light.

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I just thought if he wanted to rebuke(?) anyone he should have heard both sides then decided...
Yet, you didn't afford your readers here the same. I would have liked to hear his side as well.
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:51 AM
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This would have been very nice and kind if you had not already painted him, for all readers - members and lurkers alike - in the most horrible light.



Yet, you didn't afford your readers here the same. I would have liked to hear his side as well.
You know it is unfair to attack the poster for posting what happened to her just because you don't like that fact that it puts DB in a bad light.

When you act a certain way sometimes it comes back to bite you in the butt.

You comparison to him giving his side is not even close. He inserted himself into a situation that apparently he was not a party to. Sis Alvear was giving a first hand account of what happened.
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:52 AM
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Re: DKB: The Leader

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This would have been very nice and kind if you had not already painted him, for all readers - members and lurkers alike - in the most horrible light.



Yet, you didn't afford your readers here the same. I would have liked to hear his side as well.
Did she delete something? I read he left a sour taste in her mouth many years ago. Thats not the most horrible light.

Sister Alvear knew both sides you dont need to.
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This would have been very nice and kind if you had not already painted him, for all readers - members and lurkers alike - in the most horrible light.



Yet, you didn't afford your readers here the same. I would have liked to hear his side as well.
Who's stopping him?
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This would have been very nice and kind if you had not already painted him, for all readers - members and lurkers alike - in the most horrible light.



Yet, you didn't afford your readers here the same. I would have liked to hear his side as well.
I think you are really over-reacting to what was posted.
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:57 AM
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I think you are really over-reacting to what was posted.
....and didn't your husband tell you to leave it alone?
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....and didn't your husband tell you to leave it alone?
Yea!!

What's his cell number I am going to call and tattle.

Or I could do what my kids do and be a tattle texter.
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Yea!!

What's his cell number I am going to call and tattle.

Or I could do what my kids do and be a tattle texter.
He's out in the garage. I'll go and get him.

Okay, Baron I am done before I have a heart attack!!! I am so totally ticked off, I can't stand it!!! LOL!
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This would have been very nice and kind if you had not already painted him, for all readers - members and lurkers alike - in the most horrible light.



Yet, you didn't afford your readers here the same. I would have liked to hear his side as well.
You are really making a mountain out of a molehill. Saying that someone "years ago" left a sour taste in your mouth is not "painting him...in the most horrible light."

Sister Alvear explained the context of her statement, regarding a letter that was sent. I don't think anyone could come away from her post thinking anything other than DB may have made an impulsive judgment call. Perhaps he caused an offense that he never made right?

My father made similar mistakes, and he had to eat crow later. It doesn't make him a bad person--it just means he was young[ish] and impulsive and immature. Once he tried to force the hand of one of his pastors by telling him that he needed to stop his (the pastor's) daughters' fornicating, or "else." LOL!!! The pastor went with "or else" and my father was quickly booted from his position in the church--and as a member. Wrong? Not really....unwise? YEP!!!! He once sided with a well known minister against one of my sisters, and was completely wrong about the decision. My sister was deeply hurt, and later my Dad had to apologize. A lot of damage was done as a result of that bad call.

Ministers make mistakes. They make stupid decisions. That doesn't make them bad, and unless it's presented in a particularly vicious light, I don't see the point in sweeping it under the rug. Maybe Sister Alvear could have worded her post differently, but your reaction doesn't match her post. Normally the AFF doesn't use names in posts (the initial thing, right?), but this thread is about DKB, and so Sister Alvear posted her experience with him, specifically. The first few posts on this thread were much more negative, so why aren't you attacking those? Address the items in those posts.

I'm sure other people have more pleasant experiences to share--and to balance things out.
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You are really making a mountain out of a molehill. Saying that someone "years ago" left a sour taste in your mouth is not "painting him...in the most horrible light."

Sister Alvear explained the context of her statement, regarding a letter that was sent. I don't think anyone could come away from her post thinking anything other than DB may have made an impulsive judgment call. Perhaps he caused an offense that he never made right?
My father made similar mistakes, and he had to eat crow later. It
doesn't make him a bad person--it just means he was young[ish] and impulsive and immature. Once he tried to force the hand of one of his pastors by telling him that he needed to stop his (the pastor's) daughters' fornicating, or "else." LOL!!! The pastor went with "or else" and my father was quickly booted from his position in the church--and as a member. Wrong? Not really....unwise? YEP!!!! He once sided with a well known minister against one of my sisters, and was completely wrong about the decision. My sister was deeply hurt, and later my Dad had to apologize. A lot of damage was done as a result of that bad call.

Ministers make mistakes. They make stupid decisions. That doesn't make them bad, and unless it's presented in a particularly vicious light, I don't see the point in sweeping it under the rug. Maybe Sister Alvear could have worded her post differently, but your reaction doesn't match her post. Normally the AFF doesn't use names in posts (the initial thing, right?), but this thread is about DKB, and so Sister Alvear posted her experience with him, specifically. The first few posts on this thread were much more negative, so why aren't you attacking those? Address the items in those posts.

I'm sure other people have more pleasant experiences to share--and to balance things out.
Miss B, I know what you are saying and I do agree that Sis A may not be in violation of AFF protocol here (although I do know that at times we are told to be careful about naming names), but I think that PO's point is that we do not know enough about this particular situation to be able to accept the characterization that you even make in your post. I obviously don't know anything about this particular situation in Brazil, but I am well enough acquainted with Foreign Missions that I know the complexity of some of these situations. We have dealt with similar situations.

I think it is a stretch to say that DKB insinuated himself into a situation that he knew nothing about because if he knew nothing about the situation, he would not have been able to write the letter in the first place. We have no idea what possible legal issues may have been involved and to what extent he was writing in his lawyerly capacity and not his ministerial capacity.
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