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Old 10-26-2010, 01:06 PM
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I think Apostolic Identity should be if we are followers of the Apostle's teaching's. Or as Paul so aptly put it, follow me as I follow Christ.
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I think Apostolic Identity should be if we are followers of the Apostle's teaching's. Or as Paul so aptly put it, follow me as I follow Christ.
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I think Apostolic Identity should be if we are followers of the Apostle's teaching's. Or as Paul so aptly put it, follow me as I follow Christ.

Where did he say that, exactly?
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Where did he say that, exactly?
1Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
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1Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
But he didn't say follow me as I follow Christ.
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But he didn't say follow me as I follow Christ.
Does that mean something different than
Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
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Does that mean something different than
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He's saying, "Follow me, I am of Christ."
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He's saying, "Follow me, I am of Christ."
Nooooo he says "be followers of me even as I am (a follower) of Christ"

That word "even as" tends to make the difference there
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The late Dr. Walter Martin (apologist and founder of Christian Research Institute) explained that when the doctrine of the Trinity was denied, then the second person of the Trinity is perverted, and then he is no longer the same Christ taught to us in the Bible. Martin points out that the Apostle Paul himself warned that there was "the other Jesus." In fact, Paul says that some people preach a "different Jesus," and that they also preach a "different spirit" and a "different gospel" (2 Cor 11:4). Do Christian pastors really have to be told this? Martin states:
For it is axiomatic that if the doctrine of Christ Himself, i.e., His Person [which includes His being the second person of the Trinity] nature and work are perverted, then the identity of the life-giver is altered, then the life which He came to give is correspondingly negated" (The Kingdom of the Cults, Bethany House Publishers).
Thus, if the life that the Second Person of the Trinity came to give is negated, salvation is negated.

I could go on and on with quotes from biblical scholars who all agree that the Trinity is a DNA-Doctrine. The DNA-Doctrine of the Trinity is so fundamental to Christianity, the burden of proof is upon those who say that people can be saved while denying the Trinity, not upon those who say that a negation of the Trinity is ultimately a negation of salvation.
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But he didn't say follow me as I follow Christ.
Good grief. He was a follower of Christ, I take it to mean, he followed Christ.
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