**lol** Don't you love self-revolving questions. Yep. In the spirit of your previous question, why should I answer?
A little more seriously, and perhaps you'll appreciate this, having children. Some answers are less appreciated than when allowed the time to either (1) figure it out for one's self or (2) position one's self to receive it with far more appreciation.
I've sure had things go over my head in times past, that later were kinda like, "Whoa! That's what they meant."
Well, in terms of your #1, I did offer a few possible answers to my question, while I was waiting. Were they at all close? How about a hint? As for #2, will you know when I'm ready to appreciate your answer enough?
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Please note... Greek Orthodox also sit the child in the water and pour the water over the head with their hands...
The word "baptizo" doesn't ONLY mean "to immerse", it also means to "wash". For example the writer of Hebrews wrote...
Hebrews 9:10
Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
The writer of Hebrews is speaking about the ritual purifications in the Law requiring "sprinkling" such as with the consecration of Levites and lepers who who were sprinkled with water seven times for purification. Guess what word he uses for "washings"??? You guessed it... "baptismos". Here it is directly from Strong's....
909 // baptismov // baptismos // bap-tis-mos' //
from 907 ; TDNT - 1:545,92; n m
AV - washing 3, baptism 1; 4
1) a washing, purification effected by means of water
It's the same word translated "baptisms" in Hebrews 6:2.
My point is that water baptism is an essential part of the Gospel message... however, it's far more simple than we make it out to be. Anyone can be water baptized anywhere. All it takes is a bowl of water. The catacombs are full of paintings wherein Christians are baptized by having water poured over them. It's an ancient practice rooted in the Law of God and even predates "mikveh" as the Jewish religion practices it. The reader should also note... mikveh required the candidate to be completely unclothed. If the Lord was clothed at his baptism... it wasn't a mikveh. Also note... the waters of the muddy Jordan were considered unclean for ceremonial mikvehs according to Jewish tradition. However, no such stipulation exists regarding the ritual cleansings found in the Law, which were preformed by pouring and sprinkling.
I've excerpted just the baptismal objective and actions from Mat 3:13-16
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... Jesus came ... to John at the Jordan to be baptized by him. ... When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water ...
Jesus came to John to be baptized by him, not by Himself. When Jesus was baptized, He came up from the water. Two things: (1) it would seem one has to go down into the water, in order to come up from it, and (2) it would seem someone else did the baptizing, aka, the candidate (Jesus) was baptized by John.
I've excerpted just the baptismal objective and actions from Mat 3:13-16Jesus came to John to be baptized by him, not by Himself. When Jesus was baptized, He came up from the water. Two things: (2) it would seem someone else did the baptizing, aka, the candidate (Jesus) was baptized by John.
Yes, Jesus was baptized by John.
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(1) it would seem one has to go down into the water, in order to come up from it,
I think we need to be careful not to read too much into this statement. Jesus may have simply waded out into the water about ankle or waist deep, allowing John pour water over him. Then Jesus simply, "came up from the water", meaning he walked out, up onto dry ground.
And then there are myriads of ancient catacomb paintings dating back to the first century depicting baptism by pouring...
Let see what Jesus says.
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved,but whoever does not believe will be condemned.MARK 16:16 ESV I can't argue with Jesus Christ.
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There they can find plenty of fault.
Now there is no virtue in water,water has no regenerational qualities,and yet it seems to have something to do being forgiven.
And Peter said to them,Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins,and you will receive the promise of The Holy Spirit. ACTS.2:38 ESV
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
From The J.B. Phillips New Testament in modern english.
Peter told them,
You must repent and every one of you must be baptised in the name of Jesus Christ,so that you may have your sins forgiven,and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Of course ACTS 2:37,38 was the altar call the death,burial,resurrection of Christ was the main message,but this was the day the church began and so Peter's altar call cannot be ignored.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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