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01-12-2011, 11:01 PM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Re: Adornment!!
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Originally Posted by Falla39
"And I will put enmity between you and the woman,... Gen.3:15  LOL!
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Didn't Jesus cure all that?
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01-12-2011, 11:32 PM
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Re: Adornment!!
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Google it.
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Oh, you mean like this one? http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...ient=firefox-a
Still leaves out a lot, because it is only two bars, and I would think that men would tend to be more aggressive on a Saturday night in wanting to meet a woman (ie. hookup) versus a Wednesday night. We don't know how many women were used, if they were both given a "makeup night" and a "non-makeup night". We don't know if there clothing was identical, or if they were dressed to match the makeup.
Nice point though, and I quote "lt has been found that cosmetics do improve female facial attractiveness when judgments were made based on photographs. Furthermore. these were laboratory studies and no field study exists in the literature."
Then towards the end of the report... "A few publications suggest that cosmetics enhance the facial attractiveness of women who wear makeup. Furthermore, the stimuli used in this research lack ecological validity. Those stimuli are photographs that depict women in artificial ways, such as unusual poses with physical details obscured. So there is a need for research to examine the role of cosmetics in more natural, dynamic and three-dimensional settings. Secondly, dependent variables have been limited to the use of photographs. Furthermore, the effect of rated attractiveness on behavior still remains in question."
Based on that, I would say Gueguen's report supports more scientific research in the field to determine if makeup really does make much of a difference in the behavior of people. C' la vie.
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01-12-2011, 11:39 PM
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Re: Adornment!!
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Originally Posted by Falla39
"And I will put enmity between you and the woman,... Gen.3:15  LOL!
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Thus men will eternally be forced to sleep on couches when their better half asks "Does this dress make me look fat?".
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01-12-2011, 11:45 PM
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Re: Adornment!!
Of course, it might have just been the music in the background that had those men so interested.... or the beer in their glass.
2 men per hour making a pass if you wore makeup
1.5 men per hour making a pass if you didn't wear makeup.
(Of course we don't know how the observers defined "a pass." Is there a chance the observers were biased towards the women wearing makeup? I mean 1/2 a man pass per hour doesn't sound like much more)
"Gueguen recruited two women in their early twenties to go to bars for sixty sessions on twenty nights, and sit at a free table near where they were highly visible. The women either wore makeup or not — and when they did, they applied to it to their eyes, cheeks, and lips. Observing the women were members of Gueguen’s research team, who counted the number of men that approached the made-up girls and the minutes lapsed before and between approaches.
The results? Although men approached the women in every session, the come-ons were more frequent when women wore makeup. It took less time for men to make a pass at the women (an average of 17 min vs. 23 min), and more men approached the women per hour (a mean of 2.0 vs 1.5). "
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01-12-2011, 11:54 PM
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Re: Adornment!!
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Originally Posted by CAD/JPY
Of course, it might have just been the music in the background that had those men so interested.... or the beer in their glass.
2 men per hour making a pass if you wore makeup
1.5 men per hour making a pass if you didn't wear makeup.
(Of course we don't know how the observers defined "a pass." Is there a chance the observers were biased towards the women wearing makeup? I mean 1/2 a man pass per hour doesn't sound like much more)
"Gueguen recruited two women in their early twenties to go to bars for sixty sessions on twenty nights, and sit at a free table near where they were highly visible. The women either wore makeup or not — and when they did, they applied to it to their eyes, cheeks, and lips. Observing the women were members of Gueguen’s research team, who counted the number of men that approached the made-up girls and the minutes lapsed before and between approaches.
The results? Although men approached the women in every session, the come-ons were more frequent when women wore makeup. It took less time for men to make a pass at the women (an average of 17 min vs. 23 min), and more men approached the women per hour (a mean of 2.0 vs 1.5). "
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Actually I do believe the come on's are far more frequent based on consumption. The Mythbusters even took on the beer-glasses myth of women appearing more attractive the more you had to drink -and confirmed it!
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01-13-2011, 12:08 AM
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Re: Adornment!!
This is a long, scientific article, but it does explain a lot... worth reading for those who want to wade through it. The pro's and the con's.
"Studies have shown that people assign more positive qualities to attractive children and adults than to unattractive ones [101, 102]. In addition, facial attractiveness correlates positively with mating success and, thus, supports the hypothesis that the attractiveness of the face is important in human mate selection [103]. Moreover, people’s view of facial attractiveness seems to be remarkably consistent, regardless of race, nationality, or age (reviewed in [101, 104]). It is, therefore, hardly surprising that humans attach great importance to a beautiful, healthy, and youthful-looking skin. An improvement in facial skin appearance can be accomplished relatively easily through the use of cosmetic products"
Ref: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...9.00535.x/full
aHHH, BUT NOW LOOK FURTHER...
"As the face is the most frequently exposed part of the body and always visible to others, facial skin condition might be used as an honest indicator of female mate value. This hypothesis is supported by the findings of Furnham et al. [149], who found facial age to have a more significant influence on the assessment of attributes such as youthfulness, attractiveness, fertility, healthiness, and fecundity, than other oestrogen-dependent body features such as waist-to-hip ratio (WHR)."
Wow, just the way God made us!
Last edited by CAD/JPY; 01-13-2011 at 12:14 AM.
Reason: to add more useful info
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01-13-2011, 12:09 AM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: Adornment!!
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
The Mythbusters even took on the beer-glasses myth of women appearing more attractive the more you had to drink -and confirmed it!
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Yeah, about that... :-/ ...it was a coyote ugly.... I am still traumatized.
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01-13-2011, 12:54 AM
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Re: Adornment!!
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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*
Pretty for ME. No, I don't wear jewelry for other people. I wear jewelry even when I'm at home alone, because I like pretty things.
Period.
Whether you believe it or not.
Men really need to get over thinking that women do everything because of them. 
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Precisely!
I wear jewelry because I'm a "complete the look" kinda gal. If a necklace or ring or bracelet enhances my outfit, I wear it. Or a scarf or shoes or.....
I admit to having a "personal" problem with things matching. I cannot leave the house unless I'm coordinated........and it has nothing to do with "men". 
For me it's a carry over from poor self image issues from my teens.
Maybe I need a therapist, but part of "creating" an outfit is "artistic expression"; it's fun!
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01-13-2011, 05:51 AM
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Love God, Love Your Neighbor
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Re: Adornment!!
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
We should at least be able to think that it's 50/50 huh? 
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Wellllll..... it depends on the subject.
Now when it comes to food and cooking - yeah, women really do like to please men in that area.
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01-13-2011, 06:53 AM
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Wouldn't Take Nothin' For My Journey Now!
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Re: Adornment!!
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Didn't Jesus cure all that? 
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A cure was provided, but not everyone accepts what was provided.
I was just following the comments re ego, etc.
All that mankind needed WAS provided but all mankind did not, and have not,
received what was provided. But the Word still says that every knew WILL
BOW and EVERY TONGUE SHALL confess, that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, to the
glory of GOD, THE FATHER. (SPIRIT)! HE knows HOW to bring mankind to their
knees.
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