Mammoth Resurrection - Page 2

Twisp · #11 01-19-2011, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by scotty

Would they have a soul ? Could they experience salvation ? What would God's stance be for those who are "re-created" after His own image ?

One would assume since the clone was human, he would have a soul the same way as all other humans do. That same logic would apply towards his ability to gain salvation.

I am sure God's stance for this human would be the same for the clone as for any human. Why would him being cloned change God's stance on him? It's not like he asked to be cloned, lol.

Now, one could try to make an argument that the clone does not have a soul and therefore could not be human, but to me, that would be a silly argument, since we cannot determine where the soul is or how to measure for it.

scotty · #12 01-19-2011, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp

One would assume since the clone was human, he would have a soul the same way as all other humans do. That same logic would apply towards his ability to gain salvation.

I am sure God's stance for this human would be the same for the clone as for any human. Why would him being cloned change God's stance on him? It's not like he asked to be cloned, lol.

Now, one could try to make an argument that the clone does not have a soul and therefore could not be human, but to me, that would be a silly argument, since we cannot determine where the soul is or how to measure for it.

Do you think that its in the will of God's grand plan for us to clone mankind this way ?

Twisp · #13 01-19-2011, 06:40 AM

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Do you think that its in the will of God's grand plan for us to clone mankind this way ?

I don't think we can say one way or the other.

scotty · #14 01-19-2011, 06:47 AM

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I don't think we can say one way or the other.

Would you agree that it is a break away from His natural design ?

If God was angry with man for building the tower of babel to get closer to Him, would it be too far a stretch to think He would have a problem with man trying to be Him ?

coadie · #15 01-19-2011, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Can't imagine any. I can't personally wait to see one in real life. It will take a few generations in that the first baby will be one half mammoth, one half elephant but the next will be 3/4 mammoth and 1/4 elephant, etc.

Like a 50/50 cat/fish?

Twisp · #16 01-19-2011, 07:16 AM

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Would you agree that it is a break away from His natural design ?

If God was angry with man for building the tower of babel to get closer to Him, would it be too far a stretch to think He would have a problem with man trying to be Him ?

Who knows? As said earlier, who can know what His natural plan was/is? Technically, His natural design was creating man from earth, and woman from rib. We are fairly far away from that now, lol.

I do not see how cloning is our way of trying to become God. We can make babies anytime we want to anyway, through natural conception, through IVF, through IUI. This is just another way of doing what we are already doing.

pelathais · #17 01-19-2011, 07:28 AM

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What about dinosaurs? Not really interested in the mammoths.

Those would generally be a little harder to keep in the yard than a woolly mammoth.

Also, with a mammoth we're talking about a species that went extinct only around 10,000 years ago with some holdouts lasting until as recently as 3600 years ago. The "mega-fauna" dinosaurs died out some 65 million years ago.

DAII · #18 01-19-2011, 07:30 AM

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Those would generally be a little harder to keep in the yard than a woolly mammoth.

Also, with a mammoth we're talking about a species that went extinct only around 10,000 years ago with some holdouts lasting until as recently as 3600 years ago. The "mega-fauna" dinosaurs died out some 65 million years ago.

Maybe they can make "minis" using a Gecko? Mommy I want a mini T-Rex!!!!

Toy designer dinos ... I think I'm on to something!

scotty · #19 01-19-2011, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp

Who knows? As said earlier, who can know what His natural plan was/is? Technically, His natural design was creating man from earth, and woman from rib. We are fairly far away from that now, lol.

I do not see how cloning is our way of trying to become God. We can make babies anytime we want to anyway, through natural conception, through IVF, through IUI. This is just another way of doing what we are already doing.

Ummm, well.... the natural plan is plainly stated in the bible.

I understand the making babies and I agree, but we aren't talking about artificial insemination. We are talking about taking the cells of one who has past on and re-creating that person.

pelathais · #20 01-19-2011, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp

One would assume since the clone was human, he would have a soul the same way as all other humans do. That same logic would apply towards his ability to gain salvation.

I am sure God's stance for this human would be the same for the clone as for any human. Why would him being cloned change God's stance on him? It's not like he asked to be cloned, lol.

Now, one could try to make an argument that the clone does not have a soul and therefore could not be human, but to me, that would be a silly argument, since we cannot determine where the soul is or how to measure for it.

I agree. Identical twins are clones of one another. Some would say that's why one of them is "evil" - I guess. One doesn't haven't a soul while the other does.

In reality, they both have souls along with their own genome, though the genome is identical at first.