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Originally Posted by pelathais
... personally, I don't have much a problem with the statements that Carp has offered for us. None of them appear to use OVERTLY "Trinnie" language such as "eternally existent in Three Distinct Persons..."
... and yet, when I Google the phrases I find that they all are part of "Belief Statements" in churches with a Reformed theology and ALL of them begin with the statement, "I believe in the Trinity..."
What's interesting to me, a whole lot of OP folks could happily say "I too believe in the Trinity..." if we define "Trinity" with these and other more Biblical statements, leaving out the contentious creedal language of the 6th through 16th Centuries.
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I just think by splitting hairs, the garden variety saint whether on the OP or Mainstream side, believes what is preached and I bet dimes to dollars they have never considered these discusisons? They have been preached but I have seen congregations tied in knots when someone tries to preach the difference between Trinitarian and OP doctrines... I remember when the church was brough together to watch the Martin-Urshan debates, there were people afterward when Sabin moderated the group, that were fit to be tied because they thought the debate did nothing but confuse people.
I am wondering, OPs say they are going to see Jesus sitting on the throne, do they really believe they are going to see him as he walked in the flesh on the earth? Scripture seems to dispute this idea, yet I can see how folks will tailor scripture to conform to either belief.