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01-27-2011, 03:27 AM
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Hate Of Reformed Theology
Why do some Apostolics have such an extreme hatred for Reformed Theology? I read where one member of this forum used the term Reformed as almost a slander? Cannot an Apostolic be one God and still hold to the beliefs of Reformed Theology without being cast out?
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01-27-2011, 10:34 AM
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Re: Hate Of Reformed Theology
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Why do some Apostolics have such an extreme hatred for Reformed Theology? I read where one member of this forum used the term Reformed as almost a slander? Cannot an Apostolic be one God and still hold to the beliefs of Reformed Theology without being cast out?
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Because RCC and Apostolica have much more in common.
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01-27-2011, 10:37 AM
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Re: Hate Of Reformed Theology
Reformed theology especially that of Calvinists makes God out to be hateful and unjust. It's totally contrary to God's character.
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01-27-2011, 10:39 AM
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Re: Hate Of Reformed Theology
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Reformed theology especially that of Calvinists makes God out to be hateful and unjust. It's totally contrary to God's character.
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Seriously, Mizpeh? Shocking statement.
The portrayal they have of God (reformed) is that of a loving, gracious pursuer who loves us when we don't deserve it. Hateful?
Perhaps our own hatred and idol worship and over-emphasis of free will has been projected here?
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01-27-2011, 10:42 AM
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Re: Hate Of Reformed Theology
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Seriously, Mizpeh? Shocking statement.
The portrayal they have of God (reformed) is that of a loving, gracious pursuer who loves us when we don't deserve it. Hateful?
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Their portrayal of God as a loving, gracious pursuer toward the underserving is only for a few not for all.
A God who arbitrarily chooses people to go to hell based on a whim? What kind of love is that? Not the kind we find in 1 Cor 13. What kind of justice is that? If it's unjust by our standards then it must be wrong since God's standards of justice are much higher and purer than ours.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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01-27-2011, 11:05 AM
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Re: Hate Of Reformed Theology
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Their portrayal of God as a loving, gracious pursuer toward the underserving is only for a few not for all.
A God who arbitrarily chooses people to go to hell based on a whim? What kind of love is that? Not the kind we find in 1 Cor 13. What kind of justice is that? If it's unjust by our standards then it must be wrong since God's standards of justice are much higher and purer than ours. |
AMEN. Calvin may have lived in a difficult time, yet he condoned murder, even encouraged it. If you believe God "hates" sinners, as REFORMED teaches, why not join him in murdering them sooner rather than later? Burn 'em at the stake, since they are to burn anyway?
God has not created billions of His image, as fuel for a torture chamber or for kindling, expand REFORMED to cover all of those that Jesus came to save, then we have starting point.
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01-27-2011, 12:03 PM
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Re: Hate Of Reformed Theology
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Reformed theology especially that of Calvinists makes God out to be hateful and unjust. It's totally contrary to God's character.
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01-27-2011, 12:09 PM
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Re: Hate Of Reformed Theology
I cannot see how reformed thoughts of Calvinism make God out to be loving when they claim He ordained that some people will go to hell and not be able to go to glory, thereby disallowing their own decision and choice due to predestination.
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01-27-2011, 03:15 PM
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Re: Hate Of Reformed Theology
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I cannot see how reformed thoughts of Calvinism make God out to be loving when they claim He ordained that some people will go to hell and not be able to go to glory, thereby disallowing their own decision and choice due to predestination.
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The Reformed tradition does have its advocates who seem to take the whole Predestination thing too far. Since we are dealing with a fundamental paradox here, we need to approach the issue with a sense of balance.
For me, the thing that most OPs seem to "hate" about Reformed theology seems to be the issue that God is Sovereign. God chooses His saints, not your dress code check lists. That puts a lot of OP pastors out of work.
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01-27-2011, 03:18 PM
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Re: Hate Of Reformed Theology
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The Reformed tradition does have its advocates who seem to take the whole Predestination thing too far. Since we are dealing with a fundamental paradox here, we need to approach the issue with a sense of balance.
For me, the thing that most OPs seem to "hate" about Reformed theology seems to be the issue that God is Sovereign. God chooses His saints, not your dress code check lists. That puts a lot of OP pastors out of work.
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The Sovereignty of God is a testimony to the Grace of God!
My friends whom the Lord has used in helping me to overcome the most were people who attend churches with a strong emphasis on "Reformed Theology."
If not for the Grace of God, I don't know where I'd be. Definitely not saved and that is for sure!
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