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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Hey, Mizpeh! We are in doors for a couple of days until this very cold weather is gone.
I do agree with the bold above, in part. Our salvation must begin to be initiated by God. However, if we were not here to receive from Him, His initiation would go nowhere. So, really, you cannot have one without the other.
Socialite comes across, and I could be misunderstanding, that grace alone saves us and I don't believe that to be true.
Because, as you said, man has his part in it as well.
"For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?" I Peter 4:17
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PO, that is exactly what I believe.
I'm glad to hear that you no longer believe we obey
before Grace comes to us. Whew... thought I was losing you there for a second yesterday
1 Peter is used a lot as proof text because of the word "obey" (some get the idea that us greasy gracers don't like obedience -- not true, but I digress)
Another way of understanding the Text there is... "who refuse God's Message"
I could explain ad infinitude what "Gospel" meant to the 1st Century Church.. and have a pretty good cloud of witnesses, including the whole of NT scripture and history -- but let's just say, the Gospel was never a command. It was an offer.