are ya ready for the judgment day

[Scott Hutchinson]

While we are awaiting the final resurrection we are to occupy.

[houston]

*siren* partial preterist alert

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Absolutely. They have hammered away against judgment preaching to the point you are instantly condemned as soon as you mention it. Thats why there is no fear of God any more. The constant barrage of negativity toward it.

Now that's a message that I remember hearing when I was young. "There's no fear of God anymore ... etc." And, they assured us in response to the elders who said that they had heard the same thing when they were kids, this was a condition that has only been getting worse.

According to Plato, Socrates complained about the moral conditions of his time (about 2,500 years ago):

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

A clay tablet was found in Mesopotamia that represented some of the oldest writings known. Going back to the very dawn of civilization and the invention of writing we hear something like (as I remember it off the top of my head):

"The times we live in are more evil than the former times..." (From the Enuma Elish).

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

While we are awaiting the final resurrection we are to occupy.

"Occupy?" ... occupy that same couch that I've been watching you sit in for the past 5 years?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by pelathais

"Occupy?" ... occupy that same couch that I've been watching you sit in for the past 5 years?

... with the same red cushion under your arm?

[Sam]

One September morning in 1995 a little before 7:00 am I was on my way to the Vineyard Church to meet someone there and pray together. I had a heart attack. I suddenly had tremendous pressure and pain from my throat down to my breast bone or navel area. Sweat was pouring down my back. I prayed. I didn't know if I should stop and pull over to avoid crashing my vehicle in case I blacked out or if I should try to drive to a hospital. This was back before I had a cell phone. I remember praying something like, "Well, Lord, I may be standing before Your Throne at any moment now" and realizing there was no fear --just peace. I also remember thinking/praying something like, "I don't want to leave my wife and kids and grandkids yet. They depend on me for a lot and I want to have more time with them and see those kids get bigger." The pain subsided and I went on to church. In a few days I was able to get an appointment with my Doctor and was able to get scheduled for a stress test and then an angiogram followed by quadruple bypass surgery a couple days later. I have often looked back at that time and realized what great peace I had and how that I had no fear of going directly into the presence of Jesus Christ for judgment. I did not have to do any begging for mercy or repenting or trying to play "Let's make a deal." I realized I was far from perfect but I was saved, I was born again, I was a child of God, and I was "ready to go."

from a person who is considered "sloppy agape, greasy grace, easy believism, compromising, weak on the message, Bapticostal, Charismatic" and a few other choice terms.