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Originally Posted by OldPathsII
I've seen a lot post here on AFF and ask why all the "Ultra-cons" have left. Is it any wonder? I simply come on here and ask, "Who believes these traditional basics?" and I get made fun of, called a baby, my beliefs called fairy tales, and lectured as if I have no idea what the bible says.
Do some of you really wonder why they left? Recently, I posted on a thread about American Idol that it was worldly entertainment and was hammered!!! I really can't say that a production that celebrates homosexuality, the songs of Michael Jackson and the Beatles, and godlessness of all kinds, is worldly entertainment?
The "Ultra-cons", which isn't a fair label, didn't just decide to leave, they've been run off.
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Bro. OldPaths... First I want you to know that, under no circumstances, would I criticize you for you convictions. I respect anyone who holds to their convictions, whether I agree with those convictions or not. I do respect our Pentecostal traditions, but, the key word here is "traditions". What some call "standards" are, in fact, traditions, handed down to us by our Pentecostal and Holiness forefathers. In fact, in studying Pentecostal history, I began to notice a trend.
The 20th century Pentecostal movement was born primarily within the holiness movement of the late 19th century. The holiness preachers that came into Pentecost placed great emphasis on holiness teachings (ie, standards). The Pentecostal Holiness and Fire Baptized Churches are good examples. Those that came into Pentecost from more mainline churches (e.g. Baptist) placed less emphasis on standards, and more on the Gifts and Fruit of the Spirit. This isn't a criticism, just an observation.
And, while I'm at it, and with respect, you are mistaken about the UC's being run off. They chose to leave (I think it was a planned mass exodus). They were asked to stay, but they refused to stay and some of them predicted AFf woukld fold without their presence. Well, it hasn't folded. I don't like the label UC either. I detest the ungodly labels we feel we have to place on ourselves to differentiate ourselves from those with whom we disagree. We disagree, some of us can't fellowship with one another because of our conflicting views. But, as a wise man once said, "Let there be no strife...between me and thee... for we be brethren." I think some of the "Cons" go to far to the right... some Libs go to far the other way. Us mods, well, we just stand in the middle and, reaching out to both sides, we say, "Can't we all just get along?"
And, your opinion of American Idol is just that... an opinion that you have a right to hold and say. But, in so doing, you should expect others to voice an opposing veiw as that is the right as well.