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Old 02-22-2011, 05:52 PM
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Re: Christian hostages murdered by Somali Pirates

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Those pirates aren't Muslim.

If they are it wouldn't matter anyway.
They are.

And it's completely irrelevant.
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Old 02-22-2011, 05:54 PM
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Though your joking, that's quite insensitive, jfrog.
Are you saying they did have the faith to move the gun armed pirate mountain and God just didn't keep his promise?
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Old 02-22-2011, 05:55 PM
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Are you saying they did have the faith to move the gun armed pirate mountain and God just didn't keep his promise?
I find your humor about victims and brothers who haven't even been deceased for 24 hours insensitive. And yet you insist...
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Old 02-22-2011, 05:58 PM
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idolators are not christians.
That's right. With nothing else to go on we'll just go ahead and label them "idolaters" who were justly killed by their One God captors.

I would think that there are pretty few Roman Catholics at Fuller Seminary where Scott Underwood Adam taught, anyhow.

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Old 02-22-2011, 05:59 PM
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Do what, Jermyn? Do what? Increase military presence? This is not a nation committing these crimes. They are rogue gangsters that swarm the waters.

This is not a political liability at all. Obama is not on a boat ship, playing the part of Chuck Norris for us all, saving the day. It's disgusting the way many have made these murders another political rant against Obama. In fact, it's out of bounds!

This is a matter of concern for the entire international community.
There isn't a nation over there-- which is all the more reason for us to do something substantial to change that problem.

Why should we do something about it? Because Americans were killed-- while we were NEGOTIATING with them nonetheless!

YES President Obama stands criticism for this FAILURE of EPIC proportions! It happened on his watch. Furthermore, this isn't the first time that Americans have been captured by these pirates.

OUR PRESIDENT NEEDS TO LEAD!


This IS a Chrsitian response.

I am a Christian and this is my response.


We pray for the souls of the dead.
We pray and attempt to comfort the hearts of their living loved ones and in honor of the senseless MURDERS of our AMERICAN citizens, we go!

We go to those waters were our brothers and sisters were killed and we clean house.

Plainly speaking, we go there and we kill the pirates that fight us in our efforts to bring lawfulness and peace to that region.

Christianity does allow for killing of other people.
This is one of those occasions where a military response is not just necessary, but indeed it has been INVITED by the actions of the pirates that had the GUMPTION to KILL our citizens while our MILITARY was attempting to NEGOTIATE PEACEFULLY!


The Somali pirates in that region have asked for it.

We need to bring it and do so speedily!
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Old 02-22-2011, 06:06 PM
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Re: Christian hostages murdered by Somali Pirates

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There isn't a nation over there-- which is all the more reason for us to do something substantial to change that problem.

Why should we do something about it? Because Americans were killed-- while we were NEGOTIATING with them nonetheless!

YES President Obama stands criticism for this FAILURE of EPIC proportions! It happened on his watch. Furthermore, this isn't the first time that Americans have been captured by these pirates.

OUR PRESIDENT NEEDS TO LEAD!


This IS a Chrsitian response.

I am a Christian and this is my response.


We pray for the souls of the dead.
We pray and attempt to comfort the hearts of their living loved ones and in honor of the senseless MURDERS of our AMERICAN citizens, we go!

We go to those waters were our brothers and sisters were killed and we clean house.

Plainly speaking, we go there and we kill the pirates that fight us in our efforts to bring lawfulness and peace to that region.

Christianity does allow for killing of other people.
This is one of those occasions where a military response is not just necessary, but indeed it has been INVITED by the actions of the pirates that had the GUMPTION to KILL our citizens while our MILITARY was attempting to NEGOTIATE PEACEFULLY!


The Somali pirates in that region have asked for it.

We need to bring it and do so speedily!
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Old 02-22-2011, 06:09 PM
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Re: Christian hostages murdered by Somali Pirates

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There isn't a nation over there-- which is all the more reason for us to do something substantial to change that problem.

Why should we do something about it? Because Americans were killed-- while we were NEGOTIATING with them nonetheless!

YES President Obama stands criticism for this FAILURE of EPIC proportions! It happened on his watch. Furthermore, this isn't the first time that Americans have been captured by these pirates.

OUR PRESIDENT NEEDS TO LEAD!


This IS a Chrsitian response.



I am a Christian and this is my response.


We pray for the souls of the dead.
We pray and attempt to comfort the hearts of their living loved ones and in honor of the senseless MURDERS of our AMERICAN citizens, we go!

We go to those waters were our brothers and sisters were killed and we clean house.

Plainly speaking, we go there and we kill the pirates that fight us in our efforts to bring lawfulness and peace to that region.

Christianity does allow for killing of other people.
This is one of those occasions where a military response is not just necessary, but indeed it has been INVITED by the actions of the pirates that had the GUMPTION to KILL our citizens while our MILITARY was attempting to NEGOTIATE PEACEFULLY!


The Somali pirates in that region have asked for it.

We need to bring it and do so speedily!
Negotiating is standard military procedure when innocent civilians are hostages.

Fortunately, the last show down resulted in 0 innocent casualties since during negotiating snipers had a clear shot. Obama gave 100% auth to engage militarily as needed with the captors.
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Old 02-22-2011, 06:11 PM
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Re: Christian hostages murdered by Somali Pirates

How many American citizens have been harrassed by Somali pirates on President Obama's watch?

Why would he not be responsible?

That's what Executives are-- RESPONSIBLE!
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Re: Christian hostages murdered by Somali Pirates

Blood, war and revenge. Totally sounds like Mt 5-7 ethics -- not!!

Note: Somolia is a nation, not sure where you got your facts on that one. Also, did you read Sec Clinton's statement posted?
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Im always surprised to hear something like this happening in that area. You'd think by now common sense would say to stay away from that area or be heavily armed and ready for a fire fight
They were traveling in a convoy earlier and then broke away to pursue their own course as it departed from the course of the convoy (not certain where they were headed). The vessel was boarded and commandeered of the coast of Oman near the Persian Gulf. These pirates were certainly far from home.

The first news report I read said that the US Naval vessel that was shadowing the sailboat heard gunshots coming from the sailboat. That's when they boarded in force. Several hijackers were killed, the rest captured. The Americans (4 in number) were immediately treated but succumbed to their wounds... and then it said that the Navy found the remains of two more pirates aboard.

Early reports from actions like this are notoriously sketchy and even contradictory - but did the Americans attempt to overcome the pirates? I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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