The Slippery Emergent Slope - Page 9

crakjak · #81 03-01-2011, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/...ments#comments

Bump, for posterity!! LOL

Socialite · #82 03-01-2011, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

Fine story, brave young man, however, what does "lost" mean? Big stretch from "lost" to annihiliation or endless torment. The one "lost" sheep, surely couldn't "see the gospel" but the Shepherd found him anyway!! Jesus said HE came to seek AND to save the "lost", so I would say that the "lost" are in a very good position!

And yet only His sheep hear his voice

crakjak · #83 03-01-2011, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

And yet only His sheep hear his voice

You haven't explained why HE leaves the 99, to go and seek out the 1 last and lost sheep. This is very much a UR context, yet most fail to see it, and if brought to their attention they ignore it.

crakjak · #84 03-01-2011, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

You haven't explained why HE leaves the 99, to go and seek out the 1 last and lost sheep. This is very much a UR context, yet most fail to see it, and if brought to their attention they ignore it.

"The Good News is better than you ever imagined, LOVE WINS!!" Rob Bell

Maximilian · #85 03-03-2011, 03:49 PM

Crackjak, respectfully, this is the danger of going beyond what is written into the original meaning of the parable. Jesus was not preaching an eschatological view of universalism; he was instructing that the Father is no longer for the sheep who don't need salvation, the spiritually elite, but He goes out of His way to rescue even the one that seems unimportant.

The Good News, if ignored, rejected, and not welcomed, isn't a good ending, no matter how you believe that looks.

A great blog that's been discussing Universalism since the Rob Bell controversy sparked (everyone seems to be talking about it now):

http://nearemmaus.wordpress.com/2011...hell/#comments

Would love to see crakjak weighing in

BrotherEastman · #86 03-03-2011, 05:16 PM

I still believe in only one God, whose name is Jesus! And that we MUST REPENT, be baptized and recieve the very Spirit of God!

houston · #87 03-03-2011, 06:15 PM

have a point?

Apprehended · #88 03-03-2011, 06:39 PM

One is either saved or lost. There are only two eventualities. One is heaven, the other is hell. The imperative spoken by Jesus, "...ye must be born again..." is not without eternal implications. To be born again or not to be born again is a choice of eternal consequence.

crakjak · #89 03-03-2011, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximilian

Crackjak, respectfully, this is the danger of going beyond what is written into the original meaning of the parable. Jesus was not preaching an eschatological view of universalism; he was instructing that the Father is no longer for the sheep who don't need salvation, the spiritually elite, but He goes out of His way to rescue even the one that seems unimportant.

The Good News, if ignored, rejected, and not welcomed, isn't a good ending, no matter how you believe that looks.

A great blog that's been discussing Universalism since the Rob Bell controversy sparked (everyone seems to be talking about it now):

http://nearemmaus.wordpress.com/2011...hell/#comments

Would love to see crakjak weighing in

Crakjak weighing in:

I fervently believe the love of God goes "beyond" the heart, mind and understanding of carnal men. His purpose is to redeem HIS creation, "...all in the earth, under the earth and above the earth..." He is God not some weak and temperamental despot.

crakjak · #90 03-03-2011, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Apprehended

One is either saved or lost. There are only two eventualities. One is heaven, the other is hell. The imperative spoken by Jesus, "...ye must be born again..." is not without eternal implications. To be born again or not to be born again is a choice of eternal consequence.

What you post may be true, yet the true meaning of the words are not what you believe them to be.