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Old 03-14-2011, 11:44 AM
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Re: The Thief on the Cross

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I have another verse I would like you to consider: 1 John 5:13

13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.

John writes so that those who believe may know they have eternal life. How great is that testimony! And how different is it from your claim that one knows he has eternal life only after he has repented, been baptized, and spoken in tongues as evidence of the Holy Ghost?
I love it when folks isolate verses to teach doctrines. Yes if we read just this verse only believing in the name of the Son of God we know we have eternal life. That would be wonderful Jfrog. Except thats not all he said.


18We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

19And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

21Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

So does that mean if I sin, I'm not really born of God????? I thought all the scripture says is that we have to believe

1Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

But yet verse

but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

So if a person IS born of God, that means that the person will keep himself and the wicked one will not touch him.

Not what say ye? I have lots of more arguments from other verses in 1 John alone. I believe every word of 1 John, including the verse you posted.
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