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Old 03-17-2011, 03:52 PM
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I don't belong to a Preachers only forum.
But I would agree that the dialogue here has broad brushed any preachers only forum.
Charnock - it sounds as though you have some reason to be upset.
However, I intensely dislike it when anyone makes an accusation then cannot or will not back it up with names or details.
If you are not prepared to back it up for everyone's education, then why bring it up.
Maybe you did not intend for this to go as far as it has.
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Really? I thought the implication was non-specific as to number, that there are some that are greedy, dishonest and immoral.

That is an un-refutable fact.

What is bothersome is that we've had some come here and try to accuse NOW of being pro homosexuality, when all he had said was he was willing to reach out to them with the gospel and not treat them spitefully. In the process of doing that these "gentle-men" resorted to innuendo of homosexual acts. I've heard from others that these sorts of innuendos happen often on the preachers forum and nothing is done. Yet if someone is seen as not being a hard liner on standards that person can be banned. That is the wide wide perception of people that were actually members OF those forums and either left of their own free will after being disgusted or were themselves banned for voicing their opinions.

Usually the counter argument is that person is a liar (that just happened a few posts earlier towards Charnock) and is just bitter. Well to many this just looks like another good ole boys cover-up.

Same thing happens to whistle blowers in the world. It's the same reason why people that have been mistreated or abused don't come forward and speak up, because usually the machine will make the victim the accused and the accuser the victim until something happens that allows the victim to finally speak up. It's how a predator can get away with abusing little girls while being in a position of trust, because the predator relies on nobody believing he can do such a crime. It's happened many many times in many different denominations and sadly it often gets covered up by good men.

Still, you are correct, they are not ALL that way. The irony here is we say the same things about Moderate muslims. They aren't the minority of extremist that are killing people. But often the perception is that the good Muslims aren't doing enough to speak up and out against the extremists. They are seen as too passive.
The fact is this, is this the way to handle such things?
I have been on one Preachers Forum and have seen none of what you speak.
Nevertheless, is such a broad statement correct & is it Biblical in the way that it is being handled?

I would hazard a guess it isn't.
I don;t have to be afraid of who knows who I am or where I attend Church
If you need it, I would even be obliged to give you my Pastor's name & phone number if you have a complaint about me or my posts.
I would hope you would be Christian enough to point it out to me so I could possibly make it right first.

I still don't see what Charock is doing is either Helpful or Biblical.
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Old 03-17-2011, 04:08 PM
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Again, not what I had in mind. The homosexual innuendo is what prompted me to create this thread.
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Old 03-17-2011, 04:38 PM
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Again, not what I had in mind. The homosexual innuendo is what prompted me to create this thread.
Reminds me of the reference (to get a room) that became a
joke between preachers.

The discussion spiraled down and they laughed while insinuating homosexuality.
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Old 03-17-2011, 04:47 PM
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Reminds me of the reference (to get a room) that became a
joke between preachers.

The discussion spiraled down and they laughed while insinuating homosexuality.
They were having a suarez... or a... I mean a... oh nevermind.
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Reminds me of the reference (to get a room) that became a
joke between preachers.

The discussion spiraled down and they laughed while insinuating homosexuality.
I heard that happened. I think that is what some refer to. Now we got one person saying it does not happen and a number of others saying it does.
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it happened.
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:01 PM
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Well, I've also heard that it get's reported over on one of those boards what happens here. Someone reported, I heard, over there that NOW and AFF were pro-homosexual.

Next thing you know we had people showing up, some former members not been around in a while, accusing NOW and the board of being pro-homosexual, and using a innuendo to reference sodomy as an pejorative towards NOW.

Sorry but if that is what goes on in those forums and I built up this idealistic view of how preachers are Holy Men of God, I'd want my forum to be private too.

But Ron says it never happens.

There may be legitimate reasons for those forums being private, but Im having serious doubts as to the claim nothing like that ever goes down on them
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Well, I've also heard that it get's reported over on one of those boards what happens here. Someone reported, I heard, over there that NOW and AFF were pro-homosexual.

Next thing you know we had people showing up, some former members not been around in a while, accusing NOW and the board of being pro-homosexual, and using a innuendo to reference sodomy as an pejorative towards NOW.

Sorry but if that is what goes on in those forums and I built up this idealistic view of how preachers are Holy Men of God, I'd want my forum to be private too.

But Ron says it never happens.

There may be legitimate reasons for those forums being private, but Im having serious doubts as to the claim nothing like that ever goes down on them
Happens.
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:16 PM
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Well, I've also heard that it get's reported over on one of those boards what happens here. Someone reported, I heard, over there that NOW and AFF were pro-homosexual.

Next thing you know we had people showing up, some former members not been around in a while, accusing NOW and the board of being pro-homosexual, and using a innuendo to reference sodomy as an pejorative towards NOW.

Sorry but if that is what goes on in those forums and I built up this idealistic view of how preachers are Holy Men of God, I'd want my forum to be private too.

But Ron says it never happens.

There may be legitimate reasons for those forums being private, but Im having serious doubts as to the claim nothing like that ever goes down on them
Not at the one I am a member of.
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Ron, Are you a member of AMF?
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