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Old 03-31-2011, 01:52 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???

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This does not contradict what I proposed. He taught them to not offend the sinners who, themselves, knew women ought to wear veilings. He taught about offenses in 1 Cor 10. Check it out.
The context of the offense that I Cor 10 is referencing is the sacrificing to idols and the food served at any feast you may be invited to. He says to eat, unless the host is specifically saying that the food had been offered in idol worship. I don't think that has anything to do with chapter 11. Although, the principle of offending is a good principle to teach.

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I believe you this might be said due to the bent of the pentecostal tradition that clothing is meant to distinguish us from the world.

I am saying that his point is to not offend, not urging them to look like the world. Following him as he followed the Lord, as mentioned in the first few verses, falls in context after chapter 10 which speaks of offending others.

The only thing different about the church and the world here is that MEN AND WOMEN covered themselves in Jewish custom, not just women as in the church.
How could they be offending such a diverse culture by taking off their veils? The Greek women didn't wear them during prayer. Why would they care?

He is teaching the opposite of Jewish custom then, with the men. He is telling them to NOT be covered during prayer and you are saying they were covered in Jewish custom. Also, Jewish custom dictated the covering of the face for the women. He isn't demanding that of them in the passage. So, that is a bit confusing.

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I disagree. It was a shame to embalden themselves. Shorn and shaven does NOT simply mean to cut short. It means to make bald with scissors and razor, respectively.
You could be right if Paul is logically explaining that you have to use scissors to shorten the hair enough to shave it all off. Because, there is no way you can make someone totally bald with a pair of scissors. A razor, yes. Scissors, no.

If he is not implying that, then he is meaning to cut it short or shave it all off. It looks like, to me, that is what he is meaning, because of how he instructs the men to have short hair. He doesn't say bald.
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